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HF 2657 - special lottery for non-residents

Just wrote this to the author/sponsor of bill- Jane. Left a few personal details out but gets the important points across. I probably should have fine tuned it but heck- I just fired it off! Feel free to take any bits or ideas from below & make sure u write in to all those 5 legislators emails listed.

Hello Jane, I hope you're doing well. I understand that you are the sponsor of this bill & your reasons why. I want to give you a respectful analysis of why this cannot pass. I own ________. I farm a large # of crop acres & also manage the farms for hunting. I let no less than ____ hunters per year - Resident & Non-Resident hunt my land at no charge.

I have watched the NR land owner battles & been involved for 25 years as they have tried to change our state for decades. They are almost always out of states like Texas, Florida, Alabama, etc. Texas being the most common & a state with 5.5 Million deer VS 445,000 in Iowa & 10x the habitat we do. We are the last great state that has not been ruined by Non-Residents- fleeing their states to hunt a very fragile system we have in Iowa. The Texas mindset has always been "buy what you want"... whether it's a membership to a hunt club, a paid hunt on a high fence operation or an expensive lease. It's their culture to buy the resource. This does not mesh well in Iowa with the least amount of habitat, smallest deer herd & lowest amount of public land of any Midwest state.

This has been tried countless times before & it's been defeated going back 40 years now. For extremely valid reasons. Access to quality hunting land is the #1 reason hunters of Iowa are quitting. Any incentives to NR's will continue to erode access to your constituents. This will blow up land values & the residents will out of the game extremely fast. The new farmer will get crushed. The next step will be legislation to open it up to anyone with 160 acres or pay income tax. Also, a slap in the face to those that actually moved here to live, invest, vote & build Iowa's economy 365 days a year. We are bringing in hundreds to thousands of new Residents that move here for our Citizen of Iowa status, to hunt & to grow our state- every year. These bills will crush the desire of those folks to move here.

Our Deer Hunting Economy is approximately $180m per year (DNR study & data) & more like a Billion dollars when you factor in property values, cabins, trucks, tractors, implements, hired labor, etc. NR pressure increasing in our state will push more R's out at a FASTER pace than the concerning position we already find ourselves in. This will crush the everyday hunter, kid who hunts by permission (like on my farms) & the future hunters of our state. Push them out & there's no one to control the doe #'s. The NR's ONLY come here a few weeks a year during hunting season to shoot a buck & return to their resident state. Those NR's don't buy their gear, vehicles or contribute to the economy 365 like folks like me or all residents.

Make no mistake, I have NR friends who support this. Friends who know this gentleman from Texas. Their plan is to gain this advantage & crack in our system and ask for more in the next legislative session. I literally have dozens of close friends ready to employ BILLIONS of dollars to buy up Iowa land if this passes & they see the crack in our system. This absolutely cannot pass & this will be the slippery slope that destroys the Residents outdoor activities along with countless farmers, etc. This is precisely why every single Conservation group, Economic lobby all the way to Farm Bureau is opposed to this. I work with no less than a dozen of these groups along with many Legislators... Any that understand the true dynamics here all oppose this. Please, I respectfully ask, please pull this bill. There's zero positive to come from it. The Negatives to the (R) Party, voters, farmers, hunters & residents of this state are vast & profound. I know these issues inside & out, and I can explain from A to Z all the dynamics at play here. Please call me anytime & I'd be glad to meet to have a constructive & respectful conversation here. This is also coming from a Resident that would make MILLIONS of dollars if this passed as I could sell some of my farms at staggering figures... I would financially benefit personally if NR access was opened up... I absolutely do not want for that as it would ruin our state and our fragile resource.
Thank you & please feel to contact me anytime...
 
As an alternative to this, I think each NRLO should receive an extra preference point at each drawing. It makes it easier than it is now, but may not have as many of the negative effects as the proposed bill. Just thinking out loud. I am in my 60's and don't have many hunts left in Iowa at the current rate. I own a house and buy a lot of supplies, food, and utilities in the local towns.
 
That 160 acre # is a distraction. The “anyone filing a return” clause is the catch-all. I would think that most NRLO’s already file a return regardless of size. If they don’t, it’d be an easy “in” if this was passed.
 
That 160 acre # is a distraction. The “anyone filing a return” clause is the catch-all. I would think that most NRLO’s already file a return regardless of size. If they don’t, it’d be an easy “in” if this was passed.
I think we are saying the same thing here but 100% of those NRLO should be filing Iowa State Income taxes as their Iowa land generates income in Iowa. Rec ground or wetland reserve may not but any CRP or crop or cash rent should have Iowa State income tax.
 
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As an alternative to this, I think each NRLO should receive an extra preference point at each drawing. It makes it easier than it is now, but may not have as many of the negative effects as the proposed bill. Just thinking out loud. I am in my 60's and don't have many hunts left in Iowa at the current rate. I own a house and buy a lot of supplies, food, and utilities in the local towns.
SORRY but as I’ve told you before I don’t think we should be making any laws for the benefit of NR. I hunt several states and 0 have made any improvements for NR in the past several years. I hunt MO as a LO and a some family ground and MO changed their NR turkey regs and prices significantly this year for example. Lower deer numbers, lower quality and worsening opportunities yet we want to take care of NRLO…. If I was in the voting district of a legislator that proposed this bill they would not get my vote going forward!
 
Drew!!!! Also known as Deerhunter93!!!…. The man that created this thread. GOOD WORK. We thank you! Thank all of you. Look at this folks!

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She’s one legislator. Don’t get too comfortable. They’re used to every Iowa conservation lobbyist opposing nr legislation. It’s on the debate calendar, doesn’t mean they’ll hear it, but they can.
 
That 160 acre # is a distraction. The “anyone filing a return” clause is the catch-all. I would think that most NRLO’s already file a return regardless of size. If they don’t, it’d be an easy “in” if this was passed.
That's it. Any mixed-use rec farm would qualify, right? Basically any farm with cash rent, crop-share, or CRP would qualify a NRLO for a tag or entry into the "special application"? Am I understanding that correctly?
 
Huh?
Some of you guys are of the deep end with your paranoia.
It's far from paranoia. A certain NRLO in Jane's district is a leading factor in this being a priority. And is absolutely a steppingstone for making bigger changes in the future. This bill is an easy no
 
From Jane Bloomingdale today:

I have received a few emails about HF 2657 and wanted to provide some clarification. As I’ve worked with several groups on this bill, the goal is to support tourism and hunting in Iowa while potentially giving preference to nonresidents who have meaningful ties to our state—such as owning property (160 acres), operating a business, paying taxes, or having family here—rather than those with no connection who are only seeking a “trophy buck.”

As originally written, the bill did not fully reflect its intended purpose, and we were unable to get it redrafted in time for the first funnel. The intent of this legislation is to give nonresident hunters with a strong connection to Iowa a better opportunity to “come home to hunt.”

Importantly, this bill does not increase the number of nonresident hunting permits. The total remains capped at 6,000, but 3000 of the 6000 would be eligible for the nonresidents with ties to Iowa.

A strike-after amendment has been prepared to better clarify the bill’s intent and ensure it aligns with its original goal. Another possible amendment would ensure organizations like Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, and the Iowa State Fair can receive a hunting permit for fundraising auctions.

I appreciate the feedback, conversations, and emails, I apologize for not getting the amendment out sooner. We will not move this bill forward if we cannot get it right.

Jane

Sounds like new language is coming. ?!?!?! Like I said don’t get comfortable.
 
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From Jane Bloomingdale today:

I have received a few emails about HF 2657 and wanted to provide some clarification. As I’ve worked with several groups on this bill, the goal is to support tourism and hunting in Iowa while potentially giving preference to nonresidents who have meaningful ties to our state—such as owning property (160 acres), operating a business, paying taxes, or having family here—rather than those with no connection who are only seeking a “trophy buck.”

As originally written, the bill did not fully reflect its intended purpose, and we were unable to get it redrafted in time for the first funnel. The intent of this legislation is to give nonresident hunters with a strong connection to Iowa a better opportunity to “come home to hunt.”

Importantly, this bill does not increase the number of nonresident hunting permits. The total remains capped at 6,000, but 3000 of the 6000 would be eligible for the nonresidents with ties to Iowa.

A strike-after amendment has been prepared to better clarify the bill’s intent and ensure it aligns with its original goal. Another possible amendment would ensure organizations like Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, and the Iowa State Fair can receive a hunting permit for fundraising auctions.

I appreciate the feedback, conversations, and emails, I apologize for not getting the amendment out sooner. We will not move this bill forward if we cannot get it right.

Jane

Sounds like new language is coming. ?!?!?!

You wanna talk about wolf in sheep's clothing here ya go. This is how these people sit beside each other and convince each other that it's not that big a deal iland absolutely have no clue of the fire they are playing with.

There is no intention of the law in my mind That will ever make a net positive for the residents of Iowa by lessening the restrictions on out of state tags period!

And the coming home to hunt statement , what a crock of s***!!! About makes me puke just hearing it.

You want to come home and hunt fantastic. Buy a license. Grab a shotgun pick up your uncles and go see if you can find some birds.

You can't be residents in two states!!!
 
So only the nonresidents that don't own land are chasing "big bucks" and the NRLO's are just "coming home to hunt"? That's the most pitiful play on words I've ever read, and I hate to tell Jane this but, all nonresidents are leaving "home" to come hunt the fine state of Iowa.
 
Emails sent - this crap has to stop - it's never ending. Glad we have a good educated outdoorsman/women population that speaks up for all IA outdoors man. This is wild to me, it's a loose loose for everyone. Even the few that benefit in the very short term will have crappy quality of hunting very quickly.
 
As a Kansas resident, I will be looking into Iowa land if this happens. I really hope it doesn’t. This has happened to Kansas and most guys I knew that deer hunted when I grew up don’t anymore because they have regular jobs and can’t afford to. #notparanoia


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