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Fair enough. We’re probably just splitting hairs. All good. Just saying that it’s true it’s case by case technically but that if a county’s harvest and dva figures are down significantly than I think it’s probably ok to paint w a broad brush that most hunters need to reduce doe harvest and...

It’s not black and white I hear ya. I just try to take as much subjectivity out of it because we all have such a wide range of viewpoints on what a “pile of deer” is. So harvest data doesn’t lie imo. Deer vehicle accidents don’t lie (unless we are all taking bikes to work now) and are pretty...

Sure but in general in rural farm country IL or IA the habitat hasn’t had any major significant changes over the last 10-15 years so it’s relative right? #hat you’re saying, while true, has always been the case (or at least in the last 10-15 years). So if the dva’s and harvest numbers are down...

No question that there are factors other than size of the herd in any particular state that has contributed to less “big” bucks. Cell cams is definitely a big one, crossguns is a huge one, etc… However I’m convinced that the #1 reason by far is simply 20-40% less 1yr old bucks in the funnel to...

I guess I’m just not sure about this 1983. Technically what you are saying is correct imo and I don’t necessarily disagree. However what I struggle with is 1) for vast majority of hunters too many does or not enough is incredibly subjective and not based on any real data (which usually leads to...

What county in IL are you in? What I often wonder when I read guys saying they have really high deer numbers is if both things are true….meaning maybe you do have pretty high numbers but at the same time there was still 10-25% more deer on your farm in that decade. For example, I hear guys say...

I mean you talk to guys like most of the guys on this forum that are die hard big buck hunters I don’t think I’ve seen anyone debate or dispute this. The one guy on here (can’t recall his name or the podcasts name) literally talked about how he had like 5 or 6 different deer in the 200” range he...

Great point and an interesting one. I’ve wondered the same for many years and been very vocal on this subject. Just seems insane to me that 90% of hunters in IA and IL will all agree (which doesn’t happen very often so think about that) the hunting was the best it’s ever been in that 2000-2011...

Gotcha. This is what I remember seeint on the news and assumed it was the shooters but maybe not

Thought I saw the vehicle that they were towing away was more like a van but could be wrong. Thats definitely not a 5’ ladder that’s for sure but if it was a van type vehicle than I could see it being feasible to fit it in the vehicle. I suppose it’s also feasible, probably likely, that he had...

Where r u seeing this

Sure seems like the security folks failed big time here. Be interesting to see what comes out of the investigation in to it but agree that it seems hard to believe that a shooter from an open roof top within 130 yards from a president/candidate could ever get away w this without being spotted...

Shooter was killed as was a member of the audience sounds like. Terrible. Scary!

So Dominion was obviously confident that the fraud claims against them were BS and Fox must’ve ultimately agreed? Kinda what I’m saying….every time it came down to proving something in the court of law nothing stuck

Have nev Have never been able to “square” what truly happened in 2020. On one hand I wanted, still want, to believe it was stolen. On the other, we had the president, the senate and the Supreme Court….3 out 4, 75% of all the power and yet couldn’t get anything to stick anywhere. Im left...

Why would Fox not?

I’ve kinda wrestled w the idea of allowing the DNR of any given state to acquire more land for public access idea. I think at the surface it sounds like it helps w the access problem but assuming they are buying private rec ground is it really doing anything to improve access? Say they buy a...

Yep. Agreed. They got in to an argument about their golf handicaps and who can drive it further for Gods sake……total shit show. I’ll get myself to vote for trump maybe (may just write in Vivek or Ron D) but out of 330million people or whatever in this country those are the best 2 leaders we can...

Wish IL would go to one buck as well. If you went to one buck in IL and IA and cut doe tags dramatically, would only have to do that for 2 maybe 3 years and then could go back to where it is now. Just let the herd catch up a little bit for a year or two and it would make huge difference...

Kinda replied to one of skips post w a similar thought but while all your points are 100% valid I just don’t think most of them are the root of the issue. Growing giant deer is incredibly hard. Growing a 5 year old deer regardless of the size of his rack is incredibly hard. Those statements have...