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Just to clarify, you’ll never hear me say the herd was too big. I’m saying that it was phenomenal in the 2000s and if we simply went back and mirrored the herd population to what it was in those days IL would once again be one of the top 3 or 4 states in the country despite crossguns...

All good conversation. On your question to me on age structure it’s hard for me to truly quantify because it’s one of those things that I feel none of the states do a good job of measuring (and admittedly it’s hard to do). My true belief is that in IL the age structure is actually better than...

Would also add one small comment too to your point about all the nr’s flooding the state in the 2000s and shooting the 1.5 to 3.5yr olds. Don’t disagree, that was definitely happening, but the residents that may have been displaced on that same farm when the outfitter leased it out from them...

Kinda talking about a couple separate issues though imo Skip. Demise of the quality and quantity of the IL deer herd. And access. Crossguns were only legalized in 2017. Access- In my mind access to “quality“ illinois ground was nearly impossible back in the 2000s with the explosion of...

Reduced antlerless permits? Are you talking MO specifically? I could be wrong but I’m not sure, at least in IL, there’s been any meaningful reduction in doe permits. I wish that were the case and it’s what the state needs badly imo. But I do agree that it seems like the connection to access...

So I am not a fan of crossguns and hate the fact that in IL where I own land and hunt they are legal and very popular among hunters in the archery season. I think pretty much everyone agrees that they are way easier to kill a deer with, much more lethal, and are being used the entire archery...

Havent hidden my feelings/opinions on this subject on this forum over the years. Was literally just doing some quick research this morning on deer vehicle accidents in IL. This is one of the states primary metrics in tracking trends in overall deer populations and I think it’s a pretty solid way...

pretty Interesting. if it’s not technically illegal (maybe it is I don’t know?) I could definitely see folks doing it.

True story or rumor back in the day? Just curious. Have heard this mentioned once before. Have the Drurys ever spoke on it or would they definitely deny it. Even if true, they seem to have a ton of farms scattered all over and are raising/killing giants randomly in different farms.

W Was gonna post the same thing essentially. I know the leg is back so maybe double lung but stomach? Wouldnt have guessed that at all. Looks like a great shot

Not sure what BJs is, maybe just an Iowa thing? Member at Costco and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the lithium AA’s there and I’ve checked quite a few times. Maybe I’m looking in wrong spot. Have never checked Sam’s as I’m almost never in one.

Good question. Not positive. I’ll check it out next time out at the farm.

Interesting. Might have to give them a try. Thanks

5-7 year old brownings

They sure have. Frustrating! Hopefully someone knows of a good source to get them. Can always just go to different big box stores but they seem to rarely have a good quantity and are higher priced than Amazon sources.

Hey guys, I’ve been buying energizer lithium aa’s for my trail cams through Amazon. Can get 100 packs so I liked that. Problem is I’ve been reading poor reviews and experiencing some bad batts myself that don’t last very long through amazon. Wondered if anyone had a good, reliable, reasonably...

Ahh, I got ya. Yea very valid point. Hard to imagine a scenario where NRLO’s outnumber R’s or make up a significant percentage of the land ownership in any particular state, even IA with such a limited amount of timber/deer habitat, but I suppose it’s possible. don’t know that I’ve heard or...

“But if there aren't enough resident hunters left in a state to keep up the pressure (votes) to allow NRLO's the opportunity to hunt, bye bye” Not 100% sure I’m tracking or understanding what you mean here I don’t think. Could you expand? Don’t disagree w much of what you’re saying. Don’t think...

We’re definitely on the same page Skip, make no mistake about it. I have a few minor things that I don’t necessarily see eye to eye w you on but we are for sure on the same team and I can’t applaud what you’re doing enough. Love it. Hell I don’t hunt IA and don’t have any plans to (although I’d...