Brett Morris
PMA Member
looks nice! what did that buck score? He's got some cool character
shedhunter93
PMA Member
Looks good... Great buck
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dtk913
New Member
Check out www.skull-lok.com they have a pretty cool mounting system for European mounts. I know the guy that owns it and he will even do custom work if you want something. Iowa based too. They are in Belle Plaine.
Dan
Dan
Gladiator
PMA Member
Looks great - nice work.
Not questioning your scoring abilities, but I don't believe a split brow or G3 are going to lower the score...
You only take away the difference between the "typical" antlers. Anything "extra" or "non-typical" gets added. I.E. - you should add those points to the total net score of the typical rack....(if you want to score it non-typical, which would give you a higher score...)
That would be the only difference between scoring it typ vs non-typ...non-typ you get to add the extra points on after deductions...typ you do not...
Again, great set of antlers there. :way:
Not questioning your scoring abilities, but I don't believe a split brow or G3 are going to lower the score...
You only take away the difference between the "typical" antlers. Anything "extra" or "non-typical" gets added. I.E. - you should add those points to the total net score of the typical rack....(if you want to score it non-typical, which would give you a higher score...)
That would be the only difference between scoring it typ vs non-typ...non-typ you get to add the extra points on after deductions...typ you do not...
Again, great set of antlers there. :way:
LYON
PMA Member
Thanks for the comment. I chose to score this one as a typical because in my mind, it does not have enough non-typical junk to be scored as a non-typical. But, if I'm reading your comment right I have to disagree on scoring it as a typical. When scoring any deer typical, the non-typical points are added into the deductions for the NET typical. In this case, the split on the brow and the G3 are deductions in the NET typical score. Please correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm reading your comment incorrectly.
LYON
PMA Member
Those are pretty sweet. Like many new things I see, man I wish I would've thought of that
Thanks for the site!
dtk913
New Member
Those are pretty sweet. Like many new things I see, man I wish I would've thought of that
That is what I told him when I saw them the first time. I think he is going to be at the Classic this weekend.
Dan
Gladiator
PMA Member
People who are more educated on this can help me out... From the scores I've done in the past, I don't believe you subtract from the total because something has a droptine or flyer coming off of it.
If that was added in the original green score, then it needs to be taken out (i.e. - it doesn't help or hurt). The only thing that hurts is differences between typical points.
If the split brow and G2 were added in the green score, then yes, they have to be taken out with the final score.
I'm probably confusing you...sorry if I am. Just trying to help. :way:
ARbowhtr
New Member
Gladiator, I am by no means an expert on this, but my brother killed a large deer last year and wanted to have it placed in the official P&Y books, so we took it to an official scorer. It was about 145 in mainframe 8 with trash all over it. It grossed 166 4/8. After deductions, it only scored typical 115 and change. Without the trash it would have netted in the upper 130's. That is all I am going by, I do not know or understand the rules.
I also didn't realize how much or how to deduct non-typical points on your non-typical score, but this buck only netted around 145 non-typ.
I also didn't realize how much or how to deduct non-typical points on your non-typical score, but this buck only netted around 145 non-typ.
kwright
kwright
I killed a deer this year with quite a bit of trash and got confused trying to score him. My taxidermist, who's an official scorer, told me that a deer has to have at least 15" of nontypical points to be scored as a nontypical. Nontypical points totalling less than 15" are deducted from the typical net score. My deer looks to have about 14 7/8" of nontypical points so I'm a big believer in the 'nets are for fishing' philosophy!
LYON
PMA Member
Okay to clear our thoughts up, here is the link to the Boone and Crockett TYPICAL whitetail score sheet.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/pdf/SC_whitetail_typical.pdf
As you can see, the subtotal score is the typical frame only. However, the net score deducts the side-side differences AND the abnormal points.
So let's say you have a deer with a gross typical frame of 150". Side to side deductions are 5" and it has 10" of abnormal points. That deer will net 150-5-10=135" as a typical, OR 150-5+10=155" as a non-typical.
Also, I do not believe there is a certain amount of abnormal growth that has to be obtained to make a deer non typical, from what I understand, it is up to the owner to determine how it is scored. In the example above, would you rather have a 135" typical or a 155" non-typical? It's up to you.
Now on the scoring sheet, I think there can easily be some confusion on the gross score. I don't think the subtotal on the lower left is the gross score. The gross score would actually be the subtotal plus E.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/pdf/SC_whitetail_typical.pdf
As you can see, the subtotal score is the typical frame only. However, the net score deducts the side-side differences AND the abnormal points.
So let's say you have a deer with a gross typical frame of 150". Side to side deductions are 5" and it has 10" of abnormal points. That deer will net 150-5-10=135" as a typical, OR 150-5+10=155" as a non-typical.
Also, I do not believe there is a certain amount of abnormal growth that has to be obtained to make a deer non typical, from what I understand, it is up to the owner to determine how it is scored. In the example above, would you rather have a 135" typical or a 155" non-typical? It's up to you.
Now on the scoring sheet, I think there can easily be some confusion on the gross score. I don't think the subtotal on the lower left is the gross score. The gross score would actually be the subtotal plus E.