JUNIOR
Active Member
what type of fertilizer do you use?
jlarson007
Member
the beans would require a good source of potassium (potash) you can also feed them a smaller amount of phosphorus and sulfur. But if your not trying to grow 70 bushel beans, potash should suffice.
Brassicas I know use a fair amount of nitrogen. Among other things its important to have a properly balanced soil. So if lime is needed, id recommend finding some pell lime. A little more expensive then ag lime but it will be available to the plants sooner then the ag lime would be.
Brassicas I know use a fair amount of nitrogen. Among other things its important to have a properly balanced soil. So if lime is needed, id recommend finding some pell lime. A little more expensive then ag lime but it will be available to the plants sooner then the ag lime would be.
JUNIOR
Active Member
Now how much would that cost per acre??? Sorry that im asking so many questions, im new to the food plot world
jlarson007
Member
also beans. depending on how big of herd you have to feed. I have read other comments that you will need a fairly good size plot of beans to keep them from eating it off too soon.
If you put 140# an acre of potash out it would cost you just over 40 dollars an acre. That is pricing that you would get at a coop type business. Most of the time if your going to buy bagged it will cost more. If you rented a buggy to spread it out, then you could tinker with the blend a bit and add some dap at 25 pounds per acre maybe and that would cost a little over 7 dollars.
Pellatized Lime runs around 150 a ton and it spreads just like the above mentioned ferts. For a starter you could put out 300 pounds 22.50 per acre.
Dry Nitrogen (urea) is probably the easiest source of N for your opperation. If you wanted a 100 pounds of N for the brassicas you would need to apply 218 pounds of Urea. That would cost you roughly 60 dollars. I would also recommend putting some potash and dap for the brassica blend as well. I dont really have any recommendations for that. Just depends what you want to spend, Dap is 30 cents per pound roughly and Potash is roughly the same.
If you put 140# an acre of potash out it would cost you just over 40 dollars an acre. That is pricing that you would get at a coop type business. Most of the time if your going to buy bagged it will cost more. If you rented a buggy to spread it out, then you could tinker with the blend a bit and add some dap at 25 pounds per acre maybe and that would cost a little over 7 dollars.
Pellatized Lime runs around 150 a ton and it spreads just like the above mentioned ferts. For a starter you could put out 300 pounds 22.50 per acre.
Dry Nitrogen (urea) is probably the easiest source of N for your opperation. If you wanted a 100 pounds of N for the brassicas you would need to apply 218 pounds of Urea. That would cost you roughly 60 dollars. I would also recommend putting some potash and dap for the brassica blend as well. I dont really have any recommendations for that. Just depends what you want to spend, Dap is 30 cents per pound roughly and Potash is roughly the same.
SEIowaDeerslayer
Well-Known Member
Beans are the best hands down and then overseed rye and radishes into them when they start turning yellow. That's if the deer don't decimate the beans before the can produce a good crop of pods. If you have a high deer density you may struggle with beans. We had success with them this year but we don't have super high densities.
JUNIOR
Active Member
Now would i have to go back over it with a rake or something???
If you are looking at a relatively smaller plot, say, under 10 acres- I'd look at 6-24-24 for beans (like 250-400 lbs for example per acre) & some pelletized lime as needed (soil test). For everything that likes N- get some Urea, 46-0-0 & pellitized lime in addtion to the above- around 200-250 lbs of urea/acre (need to disc in). That's making it as simple as you can.
JUNIOR
Active Member
Thank you guys this is goin to help out a lot, thank you!
Buck-Man
Member
whats considered high deer density,I will be trying beans this spring only in 2 acres.
For example after the rut their was a group of 30 deer that would exit the east part of my woods to go hit any remaining standing beans in the adjacent bean field.
But I usually only have 6 deer during early morning and last light eating in my existing plots and unknown numbers at night.
For example after the rut their was a group of 30 deer that would exit the east part of my woods to go hit any remaining standing beans in the adjacent bean field.
But I usually only have 6 deer during early morning and last light eating in my existing plots and unknown numbers at night.
MNbuckhunter
Member
Buck-Man said:
I would think density would play a role but also where the plot is located is a huge issue.
We plant about 2 acres of beans along the western edge of our timber. It is mainly fields out that way so they don't get hit very hard and we end up with an excellent stand of beans
However, our neighbor 1/2 mile north of us plants 2 acres of beans in an opening in the middle of thick timber. He often has to replant his plots because they get hammered hard.
jclaws
PMA Member
I you use urea you will have to put it on right before a rain,or disk it into the soil because it will evaporate.