I have tried both of those and really like the way they fly. I have shot Rocket Sidewinder 3's for years and just for curiosity sakes, I wanted to try something different. I found that both of them fly right with my field points and Rockets. I haven't shot an animal with either, so I can't personally say what type of damage they do though. But my buddy shot a buck that scored just a touch over 160" this last Dec with the slick tricks and he said they did a great job with a great blood trail. Double lung shot and fell within 70 yards of the shot. That G5 Montec just looks like a solid, one piece BH to me though!