Yes...thats the bad thing about deeks sometimes. They can work like magic and then ruin a great hunt. I only use them in areas I may see a buck from a long way off and without would have no chance at him (fields). If they are going to "possibly" appear within 40 yards BEFORE they see it, most often they will spook in my experience. Have shot two really nice ones over them, and a doe Sunday, but have lost a few more that may still be running to this day /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif