LoessHillsArcher
PMA Member
I have no clue but it has to be FAST...I have an average bow as far as speed goes and I have a 0-20 yard pin, 30 yard pin, and 40 yard pin. I can't say I have ever heard of anyone having only one pin out to 40 yards, there would have to be some arch in the arrow flight wouldn't there? If that is possible that would be a huge advantage!
muddy
Well-Known Member
0-30 yards is doable, 0-40 is somewhat tough. Having a bow shoot dead on from 0-40 is a feat that I've yet to find. No matter what I did I had to raise the pin slightly off my point of impact, even at 30 yards. To me, in a hunting situation, there's too much room for error to try this. I think that in order to accomplish this you'll have to really lighten up on your arrow, maybe to the point of pushing the safety factor.
Just for reference I have my Hoyt RazorTEC shooting at 70# at a 29 inch draw. My arrows are GoldTip XT's that are roughly 28 inches, with 100 grain field tips. I can crank 309 f.p.s. through a chronograph and if I were to set my pin dead on at 25 yards I can go 0-30 with no problems, for 40 yards I'd have to hold a smidge high. It gave me too many problems and I just went back to a multiple pin sight, simpler and less thinking involved.
Just for reference I have my Hoyt RazorTEC shooting at 70# at a 29 inch draw. My arrows are GoldTip XT's that are roughly 28 inches, with 100 grain field tips. I can crank 309 f.p.s. through a chronograph and if I were to set my pin dead on at 25 yards I can go 0-30 with no problems, for 40 yards I'd have to hold a smidge high. It gave me too many problems and I just went back to a multiple pin sight, simpler and less thinking involved.
KSQ2
PMA Member
Muddy, you're shootin' some serious speed there! I was told that if I could push up into the mid-290's I could achieve the forty yard, one pin scenario. Obviously I had my doubts. Like you said, up to thirty yards would be great and I think I'm just about there. Right now I hold just a tad high with my first pin at thirty. I'm shooting roughly 285 fps, and with just a little tweaking and a couple setup changes, I think I can get to 290 w/o much trouble. Thanks for the input guys!
muddy
Well-Known Member
After re-reading I noticed a slight mis printing... My bow is at 72# cranked all the way in and I get the 309 with 75 grain tips. Sorry. With the 100 grain tips it dips to 299 and with 125 grain tips it gets down to 289-290, or so. My errors, I apologize, once again my typing worked faster than my brain... though a sloth usually goes faster than my brain.
KSQ2
PMA Member
That's still cruising pretty good. Do you hunt with 100 or 125 gr. broadheads? Also, have you ever checked out the arrow balancing graph on goldtip's website? I shoot pretty much the same arrow, draw, and weight as you. I do shoot 3" vanes instead of 4". Their chart says I should be shooting a 90 gr. to put myself right in the middle of their "acceptable" arrow balance range. I could achieve the same end by going with 4" vanes. I really don't know how important this is considering I'm paper-tuned pretty well right where I'm at. But I've considered the 90 gr. just to speed me up a little.
rutnstrut
PMA Member
Im getting 336fps out of my ultraelite and have a 25yd pin that is about 1" high at 20 and 4.5" low at 40yds. You wont find many bows that will actually chrono more than that and very few to match it, its set at #80 with spiral cams and im shooting like 4.9375 grains per pound.
Rackaddict
Life Member
I have NEVER seen or shot any bow that could close the 0-40 yard gap without moving pins.
I shoot 1 pin and have for years. My bow currently shoots about 275 fps. I set my pin at 25 yards and put in lots of practice to learn how far the arrow drops at each distance. I shot my last Iowa buck at 45 yards using a single 25 yard pin and aimed according to what I had learned by repeating shots over many times.
Personally, I like the fact that in using one pin and having to know the yardages, I concentrate more on making a shot now using one stationary pin than I did with multiple pins.
I shoot 1 pin and have for years. My bow currently shoots about 275 fps. I set my pin at 25 yards and put in lots of practice to learn how far the arrow drops at each distance. I shot my last Iowa buck at 45 yards using a single 25 yard pin and aimed according to what I had learned by repeating shots over many times.
Personally, I like the fact that in using one pin and having to know the yardages, I concentrate more on making a shot now using one stationary pin than I did with multiple pins.