Guys, I have seen the light
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Hardcorehunter
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I'll only say this...my buddy is shooting a little over 70# and is somewhere in the 290 fps with his Matthews and he doesn't even worry about the shoulder blade. I've seen him shoot through more than one shoulder blade and have complete pass throughs due to so much kinetic energy. I'm not sure I've seen a 60# bow do that. I think that's great that you found a bow that you are super confident in...because that is the name of the game. I agree that there are many people who kill a deer with their brand new bow and think there is something better out there this year and go out and buy a new one when their 1 yr-old bow is in perfect condition!! Plus it already proved true in the field!! Like I said, if you are confident in the field with your bow, that's great! But, like physics, more poundage means faster arrows...which means more KE. (formula...KE=1/2 mv2 - that's one half times mass times the velocity squared to get the kinetic energy.)
Thanks for the opinion Hardcore...good topic...
Good shooting to all of you...
Thanks for the opinion Hardcore...good topic...
Good shooting to all of you...
Hardcorehunter
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A Deers' recommended kineteic setup is 40 ft pounds.
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In my opinion, there is way too many factors to consider for somebody to make a blanket statement as the one above.
Type of broadheads being a big factor since some don't require the "horse power" as others do to push them through.
What are this persons credentials? Is he a biologist? Scientist? Or somebody that just reads a lot?
When I first started bow hunting, more years ago than I care to admit, my setup certainly didn't have the "recommended" energy. At best maybe 36 ft. lbs.
I guess the deer I shot didn't read the rules about kenetic energy.
Bottom line is....shoot what you are comfortable with and use a sharp head.
A Deers' recommended kineteic setup is 40 ft pounds.
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In my opinion, there is way too many factors to consider for somebody to make a blanket statement as the one above.
Type of broadheads being a big factor since some don't require the "horse power" as others do to push them through.
What are this persons credentials? Is he a biologist? Scientist? Or somebody that just reads a lot?
When I first started bow hunting, more years ago than I care to admit, my setup certainly didn't have the "recommended" energy. At best maybe 36 ft. lbs.
I guess the deer I shot didn't read the rules about kenetic energy.
Bottom line is....shoot what you are comfortable with and use a sharp head.
Hardcorehunter
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Good point. I am sure that my boy at the age of 11 didn't have 30 ft pounds with his 35# bow and short draw length, but I watched him get two complete pass thrus on two different does that year.
Sharp broadheads and proper shot placement is the correct way to hunt with whatever your setup is.
Sharp broadheads and proper shot placement is the correct way to hunt with whatever your setup is.
Twenty some years ago my first two deer were taken with a 40lb bear compound. Both deer were between 15-20 yards and the arrow went thru both sides of the deer and stopped with the fletching touching the hair on the entry side. That bow had wheels not cams and you could almost run faster than the arrow flew. I have shot several deer in the last few years with my 50lb bear kodiak recurve. Two of them were does that were quartering away at 20 yards. Both of those the arrow exited through the off shoulder. I also took a 160 class 4.5 year old with the same recurve at 18 yards quartering away and the arrow went thru a rib on entry and thru a rib on the off side before hitting the front leg bone. All were shot with a 100 gr cut on contact broadheads on gold tip carbon arrows. Not one of the last 8 bow deer I have shot (5 with 50lb recurve/3 with 70lb compound) made it more than 50 yards from the stand before expiring. So I have a hard time believing that 70lb is better than 50lb based on my results. Tiffany Lakosky shoots a 25 inch draw set at 54lb and I would bet she has killed more trophy bucks than 95% of the members on this site. How about Kandi Kisky, she has shot some big bucks with bow and I bet she shoots less than 60lbs. What about Vicki Cianciarulo, that girl has killed some monster bucks including one over 200" last fall along with several black bear, caribou and moose with bow. I bet Vicki shoots less than 60lbs. Ted Nugent shoots a bow set around 53lb on his show and I can't remember seeing him shoot an animal be it a whitetail, fallow deer, hog or elk that the arrow didn't exit the off side. If you think you need to shoot 70 pounds for whitetails your crazy or just don't know any better. Not saying that you can't or shouldn't shoot 70lb because I have a 70lb Hoyt Ultratec that I hunt with, but I also know it is way more bow than I need for whitetail hunting. The only advantage the 70lb will give you is if your shooting expandable broadheads which use up a lot of your KE to deploy the blades. You could easily drop 10-15 pounds of pull and shoot a fixed blade cut on contact broadhead and get similar penetration. The most important thing is shoot a bow your comfortable with and use a sharp broadhead.
Hardcorehunter
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Well said.
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Like I mentioned before...if you are confident in what you are shooting, that is all that matters...
Secondly...I shoot a 63 lb bow last year and I feel comfortable shooting it at 70 lbs this year. I was worried about pulling it back in the cold but that didn't bother things any at all. I killed a nice buck. However, like I said earlier, my buddy shoots over 70 lbs and doesn't worry about the shoulder blade and I'm not going to nock him for shooting what he likes...and if you ask me, I'd LOVE to not have to worry about the shoulder blade because that is a HUGE advantage. My very first year bowhunting I stuck one in the shoulder blade with a 50 lb bow...obviously that is something most of us have to contend with now.
I think everyone being comfortable with the bow they shoot is being a good steward of the sport and to the animal...to each his own! Straight shooting everyone!
Secondly...I shoot a 63 lb bow last year and I feel comfortable shooting it at 70 lbs this year. I was worried about pulling it back in the cold but that didn't bother things any at all. I killed a nice buck. However, like I said earlier, my buddy shoots over 70 lbs and doesn't worry about the shoulder blade and I'm not going to nock him for shooting what he likes...and if you ask me, I'd LOVE to not have to worry about the shoulder blade because that is a HUGE advantage. My very first year bowhunting I stuck one in the shoulder blade with a 50 lb bow...obviously that is something most of us have to contend with now.
I think everyone being comfortable with the bow they shoot is being a good steward of the sport and to the animal...to each his own! Straight shooting everyone!