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Horizontal Rub

I'm sure there are a few on here who have, but has anyone tried the horizontal rub? Thinking about trying one this year. Wondering if they are any more attractive than a vertical rub and where the best place is for one (besides the obvious answer of in front of your stand/setup).
 
I am going to try a few as well. I have my cedars cut and stripped. I am going to just put them at natural funnels. So, looking at putting a couple at gate openings and field edges/corners. I will probably put one by one of my food plots as well.
 
I am going to try a few as well. I have my cedars cut and stripped. I am going to just put them at natural funnels. So, looking at putting a couple at gate openings and field edges/corners. I will probably put one by one of my food plots as well.

Stripped meaning bark off, or just limbs? Would you try this in the timber, or just in open areas so they stand out from everything more? Think cedar would be attractive if you have a lot of live cedars around? I have access to as many cedars as I care to cut.
 
Stripped meaning bark off, or just limbs? Would you try this in the timber, or just in open areas so they stand out from everything more? Think cedar would be attractive if you have a lot of live cedars around? I have access to as many cedars as I care to cut.

Just branches. The key seems to be to incorporate a licking branch as well. Have you watched any of WKP Todd's vidoes? There is an older gentleman (can't think of his name off hand) who uses them a lot and one of his last videos is all about horizontal rubs. He uses them deep in the timber. Go to the White Knuckle Productions website I am sure the videos will be there. Let me know if you can't find them.
 
Just branches. The key seems to be to incorporate a licking branch as well. Have you watched any of WKP Todd's vidoes? There is an older gentleman (can't think of his name off hand) who uses them a lot and one of his last videos is all about horizontal rubs. He uses them deep in the timber. Go to the White Knuckle Productions website I am sure the videos will be there. Let me know if you can't find them.

Ted Miller is the guy you are referring to
 
Just watched a couple episodes with the horizontal rubs. Wonder if it's better to put it where there's already a scrape/licking branch. Haven't had the best luck with mock scrapes.
 
Just watched a couple episodes with the horizontal rubs. Wonder if it's better to put it where there's already a scrape/licking branch. Haven't had the best luck with mock scrapes.

Not a bad idea at same time I guarantee you place it by a low hanging branch and you will have a successful scrape
 
Just a couple of notes on the horizontal rub. I think the main reason I have success with bucks hitting mine where others don't is the fact I use scotch pine limbs as the rub and keep the limb fresh. Once they dry out bucks are much less likely to work them i.e. Bucks don't rub dead trees.
The reason I place them horizontally is I think it's just easier for them to work. They can stand and rub back and forth on it with little effort. Most will rub abit then stop and smell or nibble at the bark then rub it some more.
As for placement I like to setup mine in heavy cover because that is where a big buck will feel most secure and therefore more likely to work one in daylight. They do work great on food plots also you just need the buck to come out before dark.
The licking branch added to the setup just gives a buck another option to work and leave his scent mark he can also paw the dirt under the branch if he desires. Just like a regular scrape. I've found red oak branches work best in my area for this.
Really I'm just giving a buck everything he needs to make a signpost but in the place I desire.
Hope this helps. Ted
 
Just a couple of notes on the horizontal rub. I think the main reason I have success with bucks hitting mine where others don't is the fact I use scotch pine limbs as the rub and keep the limb fresh. Once they dry out bucks are much less likely to work them i.e. Bucks don't rub dead trees.
The reason I place them horizontally is I think it's just easier for them to work. They can stand and rub back and forth on it with little effort. Most will rub abit then stop and smell or nibble at the bark then rub it some more.
As for placement I like to setup mine in heavy cover because that is where a big buck will feel most secure and therefore more likely to work one in daylight. They do work great on food plots also you just need the buck to come out before dark.
The licking branch added to the setup just gives a buck another option to work and leave his scent mark he can also paw the dirt under the branch if he desires. Just like a regular scrape. I've found red oak branches work best in my area for this.
Really I'm just giving a buck everything he needs to make a signpost but in the place I desire.
Hope this helps. Ted

Thanks for the insight Ted! Awesome to actually get a response from you.
 
Just a couple of notes on the horizontal rub. I think the main reason I have success with bucks hitting mine where others don't is the fact I use scotch pine limbs as the rub and keep the limb fresh. Once they dry out bucks are much less likely to work them i.e. Bucks don't rub dead trees.
The reason I place them horizontally is I think it's just easier for them to work. They can stand and rub back and forth on it with little effort. Most will rub abit then stop and smell or nibble at the bark then rub it some more.
As for placement I like to setup mine in heavy cover because that is where a big buck will feel most secure and therefore more likely to work one in daylight. They do work great on food plots also you just need the buck to come out before dark.
The licking branch added to the setup just gives a buck another option to work and leave his scent mark he can also paw the dirt under the branch if he desires. Just like a regular scrape. I've found red oak branches work best in my area for this.
Really I'm just giving a buck everything he needs to make a signpost but in the place I desire.
Hope this helps. Ted

Not sure how I missed this, especially on a thread I started, but thanks for the info! Unfortunately I don't think I have any scotch pine around, but do have plenty of cedars (which makes me wonder if cedar will work since they are abundant). Was wondering about willows since I see those rubbed up every year (have tried them placed vertically, but haven't noticed much for rubbing activity). Would like to try basswood too. May have to try a few different species and setups and see what happens.

Wonder how many times you would need to put a new limb out.
 
I put most of my horizontal rubs out the last week of Sept to first week of Oct. time frame. They seem to last till mid November when bucks will basically quite using them anyway. I've never tried willow or basswood but think both should work. The only reason I don't use cedar is that I've talked with several people that have used cedar and haven't had the success I have with bucks working them. To me it just seems the cedar limbs are to dry to start with.
My source for scotch pine limbs is a couple of Christmas tree farms where the trees have matured beyond use. I just cut a lower limb of appropriate size from the mature trees. Ones that have green bark and lots of oozing sap are ideal.Funny how now when I drive around scouting for deer I spend most of my time looking for scotch pine trees! Ha.
Ted
 
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