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Knight disc extreme long range hunter?

muddy

muddy

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Any of you boys own one of these muzzys? Found one, contemplating a purchase. All opinions welcome.
 
I'll second gocyclones. Don't know what kind of price is on the long range hunter, but I'd be willing to bet you could get a smokeless from arrowhead sporting goods for not much more. Tack drivers!
 
That's a pretty good price on the LRH. Way lower than I anticipated. Disregard my comment then.
 
I love mine, however I hate the disc method in the muzzy. Very accurate, easy to break apart and easy to clean. Easily shoots 3" groupings at 200 yds w/ Hornady SST's for me. Definitely worth that price as well!!!!
 
muddy said:
If the smokeless start at 800, I can get the LRH for less than half of that.
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I have thought long and hard on how to respond. I was a big fan of Knight muzzleloaders before switching to smokeless. I am sure this is a great gun. If I ever go to one of the states that do not allow smokeless or require sights, I will own another. However, I doubt it is much of an upgrade from what you are shooting already. Other than being a good deal for a new toy, why are you looking at this one? The smokeless are in a league of their own and I would recommend spending the extra coin. You would never look back.
 
Well pictures showed a poorly taken care of gun and I quickly backed away. "Great condition" varies person to person!! Thanks for the input.
 
I don't mean to hi-jack this thread, but where can you get a smokeless muzzleloader for under $1,000? I was thinking of trying one several years ago, but the starting price on a blued Savage was about $1200! You probably don't need a stainless steel with smokeless, but that's all I've used in black powder since the early Thompson Center days.
 
A savage is the best way to go for a smokeless but since they aren't available anymore u can get a cva apex in a 45-70 and have a breech plug machined in. I believe arrowhead can do this
 
If you can find a CVA Apex in 45/70 better pick it up, as of the first of the year they stopped making them, Carlos at Ed's gun shop found a few and they were gone with in 3 days, even just the barrels are gone also.
They have the CVA Scout in 45/70 and yes Luke at Arrowhead can do the change over, and they are very accurate shooting gun, and light weight.
 
cvadave said:
If you can find a CVA Apex in 45/70 better pick it up, as of the first of the year they stopped making them, Carlos at Ed's gun shop found a few and they were gone with in 3 days, even just the barrels are gone also.
They have the CVA Scout in 45/70 and yes Luke at Arrowhead can do the change over, and they are very accurate shooting gun, and light weight.
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What kind of $ is a guy looking at spending to convert a gun (cva scout) to smokeless? Also what kind of accuracy should a guy get out of it? I currently have a tc pro hunter and I am not at all impressed. Could just be the shooter tho!
 
gocyclones said:
A savage is the best way to go for a smokeless but since they aren't available anymore u can get a cva apex in a 45-70 and have a breech plug machined in. I believe arrowhead can do this
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I don't necessarily agree with the savage comment. A couple friends of mine both had them and they both had misfiring issues. Come to find out it's a common issue with them. Theyve both sold those guns since and one had a smokeless put together by arrowhead and the other will be doing the same. Phenomenal shooting gun! He put a Burris eliminator scope on it and was shooting moa at 500 yards.
 
I think the cva conversion costs 200 or 300. Then u need to by a $60 plug and a $30 bushing. Not positive on those prices but a good ball park figure.

I have never had a misfire with my savage! I upgraded my barrel with a brux barrel with the arrowhead plug. I can shoot 2 inch groups at 300 yards. Shooting a sabotless 250 gn bullet at 2800 fps at muzzle.

U can also convert a rem 700 to shoot smokeless
 
To have the Scout converted to Smokeless, the gun was $350, and the conversion was $250, this was for everything, as far as accuracy, shooting off a bag under an inch 4 shots at 100 yards. shooting 60 gr of 4198 with a Parker 275 gr BE bullet, speed was 2540 FPS avg, 200 yards was 2 inches, But still looking for that magic load.
 
cvadave said:
To have the Scout converted to Smokeless, the gun was $350, and the conversion was $250, this was for everything, as far as accuracy, shooting off a bag under an inch 4 shots at 100 yards. shooting 60 gr of 4198 with a Parker 275 gr BE bullet, speed was 2540 FPS avg, 200 yards was 2 inches, But still looking for that magic load.
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I assume u have a sizing die to get your bullets sized to fit the barrel since you are shooting sabotless? Those are $160 and require a reloading press. That will add to the overall cost.
U can also shoot a 40 cal bullet and sabot load.
 
Yes you may need a sizing die and press, then you will be able to try any bullet in 451 or 452 size. The new Scouts come with a muzzle brake on them, shooting a sabotless load would be the best.
 
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