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The average value of an acre of farmland in Iowa increased $354 to an all-time high of $2,629 in 2004, according to an annual survey conducted by Iowa State University.

The 2004 average value topped a previous record of $2,275 reported last year and represented a 15.6 percent increase over the 2003 average.

Just a few lines taken from the annual report.....
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I saw this reported a couple weeks ago. One of the things that really hit me was the changes in high-med-low quality ground. http://www.extension.iastate.edu/emms/lvs2004/img/Map3.gif
It seems like much of the marginal ground appreciation could be linked to CRP % return with low interest rates not even taking investment appreciation return into the equation and recreational worth being much more that scrub pasture rents. I'm still looking for another "good" deal.
 
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Uhhhh Pharmer, have you been takin some kinda bidness classes er sumthin? Or did you cut and paste that?

The price increase is kinda disheartining in a way.

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Pharmer,
Hope you are patient looking for that "good deal" as they are few and far between. Seems like a person should be watching the obits and warming up to widows. The situation is that sad (at least on the buying side).
 
My definition of good deal has been in a period of adjustment.
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There were quite a few places returning 5% or better just in CRP payments a few years ago when ground was $800/acre. MBA all the way Bonker! Know just enough at this point to be dangerous, unless you want to talk drugs, can do that in a perfectly safe manner.
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I think this is the reason that leasing has became so popular. If I bought 200 acres for $200,000, I would lose the earning power of the money(10 grand easy) plus the taxes and up keep of the land. So, I could keep the $200,000 in my pocket and split the 12,000 in earnings on an Elk hunt and buy a hell of a lease in Iowa for Whitetail. Just think how tilted it would be if you had to borrow the money.
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I know what I'm going to do...Buy my own land.
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I have ground around me this year that sold for over $5000.00 an acre. Last fall a farmer purchased some ground for over $4000.00 an acre and everyone thought that was bad. This is good crop ground, but I don't see how it can even cash flow for that much money. This world is getting crazy!!
 
It just goes to show how much money is out there. If interest rates would increase some day this land market might soften, until then watch out!!!
 
Move to Canada and buy 400 acres for $100,000... Its gotta be good cause those bucks are just as big as the midwest state bucks if not bigger and they have no antler restrictions, just hearty people that chase them in the deeps of forests....

NW Scrapper, we can only wish that, but that will never happen in these ages.

A little thought after my first reply... Say your tracking a 200 inch typical and the landowner catches you. Thats priceless... Guess only way around it is taking that chance if your that ignorant to the landowner... Leaseing is the only way for the average american unless access is given for free, which is still not easy to obtain for joe smoe these days...
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Alaskan, you're pretty close on the cost. If I had a spare $40 000 I could by 320 acres that but up against my property. About 250 acres are forest, 50 acres or so are alfalfa and about another 20 in logging roads. That is about $125 an acre. It'll still be there in 10 years b/c "that is too damn much $$ for a bunch of bush", as the old neighbours say.
It may sound like a great deal but in order to hunt here you have to live here, no buying it just to come up and hunt, that doesn't work...thank GOD!
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I am not an MBA or a big thinker, but would like the leaser to consider this. I just bought a farm a little smaller, (156 acres) and for slightly less than your hypothetical. As a half tillable/pasture & timber farm, (don't look at all timber ground it wont help with the payment)it will generate approximate revenue leaving me with 2,000-4,000 from an average years crop share to come up with each year to make the annual payment. That is right out of the box before all of the tax advantages kick in like depreciation of fencing, the new tractor I am going to need, mileage, etc. Then look out for buffer strips, cp22,(crp payment for planting trees along waterways in pasture land), wind break, quail cover, etc. All the while I make the 10-15 percent in equity on my debt yearly from the inevitable increase in Iowa farmland values, ( on the hypothetical 200,000 farm that would have been 30,000 at this years 15% increase in land value) I enjoy developing the land for wildlife benefit as much as the hunting these days and will have a spot for my two young studs when they grow up. My backup up plan for hard times is to lease to someone for hunting to help make the payment.
Wanted to toss out this angle for consideration.
 
Two years ago my wife and I purchased 70 acres of land at $1095 an acre. Half of it is timber and half of it is in CRP. If it had not been logged 10 years ago, I could have paid for the farm with the timber check I would have received. The CRP check helps make the payments but keeping land in the CRP program is not guaranteed. I hear Iowa is going to cut way back on the number of acres allowed in the program when contracts are up. I think our land purchase is the best investment we have ever made. Just pulling in the driveway makes my day. Not to mention taking my first 150" deer on the farm this year. Eventually hope to build a house out there. Its hard to beleive just a few years ago land of the same type was selling for $400 to $500 an acre. I guess it is only going to get worse.
 
highjumper, Angle considered. As I said in my first reply, I do plan on buying a piece of ground...I still think you would be money ahead, with the same hunting benefits, to lease. I often wonder what would happen to land values if the government would cut the programs in part or all together or we would get a disease that would have a long term affect on the deer herd here in Iowa. Just a thought.
 
Here's a question. If people have their ground in crp and are receiving payments not to farm, can they lease their ground and receive more money from the ground? If so do alot of the people that offer hunts(outfitters/guides) do this?
 
This topic is very important. I can speak on this with some authority, for you see, I cannot afford land where I live now. I live in the mountains of Western North Carolina. 30 years ago, we were mostly a rural farming community. We are geographically half way between New York and Florida. Folks traveling between those states often stop overnight here for a stay. Many of them discover our beauty, and cool summer temps and decide to come back to buy a place, either to live, or as a summer home. This has driven our land from $300/ac 30 year ago to as much as a million dollars or more per acre for some of the same ground now. The AVERAGE farm land in my county is now $15,000/ac and it has no recreational value. I am lucky to have inherited 100 acres because no way I could ever afford the land here. The problem is that most of the country is priced higher than Iowa. I think, and most of the country thinks, that $2500/acre land is CHEAP! Millions of folks around the country can sell 5 acres where they are and buy a whole farm in Iowa! I would encourage all of you Iowa residents to bite the bullet and buy whatever you need now, as it is going to get much, much worse. Iowa hunting land is a good value at $2500/acre, you just dont see it because you look back and dwell on the days of $300/acre. I am not trying to be smart or arrogant, becaues I made the same mistake here, and I really regret it. I complained when land hit $1000, I couldnt believe it when it hit $2500, I was amazed when it hit $50,000 and I still dont believe it when I see it selling for $1,000,000.00 per acre! Here is a link to a development I can see from my front door that is priced in this range:
Mtn air I hate to see my fellow hunters miss a great opportunity that faces you right now...........No, I am not a realtor.
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I agree 100% with the big Boone and Crocket from NC. I grew up Owatonna MN in the days when nice bucks used to roam where Cabelas is now located. Call it progress, but land is going up, up, up. Back home a fenceline through flat ag ground is a coveted deer hunting timber.
 
As far as I know it is not illegal to lease land that is in CRP, but if your timber is in the Forrest Resserve Program you can not make a profit off of the timbered acres. You can hunt it yourself but I don't think you can accept money from others to hunt it.
 
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Here's a question. If people have their ground in crp and are receiving payments not to farm, can they lease their ground and receive more money from the ground? If so do alot of the people that offer hunts(outfitters/guides) do this?

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They most certainly can!!!! (that is unless the contracts have changed in the last ten years). My farm was in CRP when I purchased it. I read the contract quite closely. It prohibits you from doing about anything to earn money off of it EXCEPT leasing it to hunt. The contract stated I couldn't install an airplane landing strip. Okay, I have highly erodible land (which means hills) and I'm going to put in a landing strip? It also prohibited charging people to camp (among other things).

I discovered that some of the best pheasant ground I had access to in Iowa county was leased to Sarari Iowa the last time I went down to hunt (10+ years ago).
I never understood why this was the only "acceptable" way to earn additional money when in CRP.
 
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