Hey Fellas, wondered what your experience is on mature deer sightings from starter to about the end-ish of rut - before it goes to a food source type hunting/set-up. Want some feedback on MATURE sightings... really, 5.5 or older BUT we could say 4.5's+ in general as it probably makes for the same discussion. From my experience, here's what this deer hunting nerd has seen....
Early October... get some cold days and I've seen some seen some OLD deer mainly on food source areas BUT my sightings then have been pretty low, very much- MORE LUCK than any other time of year. Good time to have an old buck patterned and get lucky. Good & bad- often times they are on Acorns. By mid October, this lazy butt isn't doing much hunting. Earning points with the wife and goofing around.
I have some buddies that are "KILLERS" in Oct & I still am stuck in my Nov ways.
LATE OCTOBER... This is interesting, something I've talked with a few friends about.... Here's what I've noticed, has ANYONE seen the same as this???.... Late October in EVENINGS I'll see the occasional mature buck, last year I had one come out of bed & I was in a staging area (around Oct 28-29 maybe?) and looked like he may have been headed to check some scrapes, maybe check around for a doe & grab a bite to eat. Not sure. I hit a twig and took the hair off his back. Thankfully my bro got him 3 weeks later. Obviously, late Oct cold weather is a factor as well. I am very curious what your late season Oct strategy is??? I have several buddies that slay em in Oct and I've been talking with them some. Most hunt only at night thru Oct. Oct hunting interests me every year BUT I struggle with balancing the pressure on my "TOP NOTCH" spots- which to this day- I will not go into until Nov 3-4-ish BUT I almost feel guilty pressuring them at all... Don't get me wrong, I'll do it (hunt in SOME way late Oct- still pry stay outta my prime spots) and I want to continue to learn better ways to "do it right" in late Oct.
OK, here's a TRICKY one.... Right after I see 1 or 2 mature ones late Oct, it "SEEMS" like Nov 1-4 we never get anything. For some WEIRD reason it seems like after late Oct it slows for a few days and then a NEW GAME starts and a light switch gets turned Nov 4-ish. yes, I could be imagining this. Maybe your experience is totally different???
Nov 7-15.... I know at SOME point there, things are going to be CRAZY!!! I never know the peak and of course weather and moon play into that (weather more than anything) BUT from year to year - THE PEAK - seems to change from maybe 5-6 days in any direction. I've had it where I had to go home Nov 14 for a while and right when I was leaving things were going INSANE and then I've had it from Nov 8 things were NUTS and by the 15th we were back in a LULL/DEAD! The last THREE to FOUR YEARS, I'll take Nov 7-15 over Nov 1-8 BUT it does seem to shift some each year and other than MOON, ya just don't know what that year will produce for a PEAK. *Yes, my solution is to hunt them all if I can
REST OF NOV.... There's ALWAYS a lull for me, might be the 12th, could be the 18th, could be the 22nd, WHO KNOWS, whatever & for whatever reason, there's always a lull or 2, bucks locked down, etc. For the late part of November, I see LESS bucks BUT often times I see mature monsters and sometimes in the middle of the day when things are boring or hunting in general is slower. I will admit, for the last couple years, my Thanksgiving time "secret weapon" has not worked out too well BUT years before that, if I hunted late Nov- I usually could count on seeing some giants (just seems like last 2 or 3 years, late Nov kinda sucked). Granted, I killed a 7.5+ (aged at 7.5 minimum) on Nov 22 at 1:30 last year SO I suppose it wasn't horrible.
I also have the opinion the last TWO ruts have SUCKED!!!!! Whether it's weather, moon, lower #'s, less mature bucks, I DON'T KNOW but the last 2 ruts have sucked for me. Still pounded away and have some successful hunts BUT didn't see the amount of deer and mature bucks like the years it's been on fire in early to mid Nov.
OK, part of this is sharing my story & experience BUT far more... I wanna hear from others and learn what & when you see MATURE movement and how you handle the different time-frames and situations as we all must adapt to different hunting periods through out Oct to end of Nov. Some of this may be thinking too deep BUT I enjoy this, I enjoy looking at each year learning how to improve and understand time-frames, good hunting times and mature buck movement & why. Let's hear from you! Good hunting, hope you get a crack at some OLD bucks.
Let me know your thoughts!!!...
Early October... get some cold days and I've seen some seen some OLD deer mainly on food source areas BUT my sightings then have been pretty low, very much- MORE LUCK than any other time of year. Good time to have an old buck patterned and get lucky. Good & bad- often times they are on Acorns. By mid October, this lazy butt isn't doing much hunting. Earning points with the wife and goofing around.
LATE OCTOBER... This is interesting, something I've talked with a few friends about.... Here's what I've noticed, has ANYONE seen the same as this???.... Late October in EVENINGS I'll see the occasional mature buck, last year I had one come out of bed & I was in a staging area (around Oct 28-29 maybe?) and looked like he may have been headed to check some scrapes, maybe check around for a doe & grab a bite to eat. Not sure. I hit a twig and took the hair off his back. Thankfully my bro got him 3 weeks later. Obviously, late Oct cold weather is a factor as well. I am very curious what your late season Oct strategy is??? I have several buddies that slay em in Oct and I've been talking with them some. Most hunt only at night thru Oct. Oct hunting interests me every year BUT I struggle with balancing the pressure on my "TOP NOTCH" spots- which to this day- I will not go into until Nov 3-4-ish BUT I almost feel guilty pressuring them at all... Don't get me wrong, I'll do it (hunt in SOME way late Oct- still pry stay outta my prime spots) and I want to continue to learn better ways to "do it right" in late Oct.
OK, here's a TRICKY one.... Right after I see 1 or 2 mature ones late Oct, it "SEEMS" like Nov 1-4 we never get anything. For some WEIRD reason it seems like after late Oct it slows for a few days and then a NEW GAME starts and a light switch gets turned Nov 4-ish. yes, I could be imagining this. Maybe your experience is totally different???
Nov 7-15.... I know at SOME point there, things are going to be CRAZY!!! I never know the peak and of course weather and moon play into that (weather more than anything) BUT from year to year - THE PEAK - seems to change from maybe 5-6 days in any direction. I've had it where I had to go home Nov 14 for a while and right when I was leaving things were going INSANE and then I've had it from Nov 8 things were NUTS and by the 15th we were back in a LULL/DEAD! The last THREE to FOUR YEARS, I'll take Nov 7-15 over Nov 1-8 BUT it does seem to shift some each year and other than MOON, ya just don't know what that year will produce for a PEAK. *Yes, my solution is to hunt them all if I can
REST OF NOV.... There's ALWAYS a lull for me, might be the 12th, could be the 18th, could be the 22nd, WHO KNOWS, whatever & for whatever reason, there's always a lull or 2, bucks locked down, etc. For the late part of November, I see LESS bucks BUT often times I see mature monsters and sometimes in the middle of the day when things are boring or hunting in general is slower. I will admit, for the last couple years, my Thanksgiving time "secret weapon" has not worked out too well BUT years before that, if I hunted late Nov- I usually could count on seeing some giants (just seems like last 2 or 3 years, late Nov kinda sucked). Granted, I killed a 7.5+ (aged at 7.5 minimum) on Nov 22 at 1:30 last year SO I suppose it wasn't horrible.
I also have the opinion the last TWO ruts have SUCKED!!!!! Whether it's weather, moon, lower #'s, less mature bucks, I DON'T KNOW but the last 2 ruts have sucked for me. Still pounded away and have some successful hunts BUT didn't see the amount of deer and mature bucks like the years it's been on fire in early to mid Nov.
OK, part of this is sharing my story & experience BUT far more... I wanna hear from others and learn what & when you see MATURE movement and how you handle the different time-frames and situations as we all must adapt to different hunting periods through out Oct to end of Nov. Some of this may be thinking too deep BUT I enjoy this, I enjoy looking at each year learning how to improve and understand time-frames, good hunting times and mature buck movement & why. Let's hear from you! Good hunting, hope you get a crack at some OLD bucks.
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