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Yeah, Baby! One of the counties I hunt has increased the antlerless quota!

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Pheasants could be sparse, but not deer in Iowa</span>


Joe Wilkinson • Outdoors • July 3, 2008


Ice, snow and catastrophic flooding have marked 2008 as we close the first half of the year. No wonder many of us look a little deeper into the calendar for some good news -- say the hunting seasons? Even then, lousy pheasant-raising weather and 100,000 CRP acres put back into cropland mean bird prospects will be lean. That makes deer hunting a bright spot heading into this fall.


With a little extra time in November for bow hunting and a few more days in January for cold weather gun hunting, I've bought several antlerless tags in each of the last few years, and I've noticed a few carried by our December hunting party lately. Season dates, special zones and county-by-county quotas were set recently by the Iowa Natural Resources Commission, and antlerless deer tags will be a staple this season, as well.

"The only major change is an increase of about 11,000 antlerless tags," says Willie Suchy, Department of Natural Resources wildlife research supervisor. "They seem to be working real well. In some counties, almost 75 percent of all deer killed are antlerless, with 60 percent of them does. With that kind of harvest, we'll get those counties down, as well."

That means 120,000 county-specific tags are out there for hunters willing to kill antlerless deer. The goal, of course, is to bring deer populations to acceptable levels statewide by harvesting more does.

There will be 39 counties with more tags available this fall and winter. Most of those counties lie in the three southern tiers, though several northeast counties were bumped, too. Around here, Cedar County jumps from 1,000 to 1,300. Washington County goes from 2,150 to 2,250. Another 58 counties remain at last year's quotas, including Johnson (with 2,000 available), Iowa (1,200), Muscatine (1,700) and Linn (1,900).

Across north central and northwest Iowa, 22 counties will again offer no antlerless tags. They are among about 40 with deer numbers close to target levels, with another 30 heading in the right direction.

"In another year or two, we should be in pretty good shape there," says Suchy, noting that road-killed deer statewide dropped about 8 percent in '07 and that '08 aerial and spotlight surveys indicate a downturn, too.

"That leaves 20-some counties where we really have to concentrate on getting extra hunting pressure," he says. Those counties are in southern and northeast Iowa primarily, generally home to prime deer habitat and fewer people.

Special hunts -- in state or county parks and in or around cities -- remain popular. There are 60 of them this fall and winter, including in F.W. Kent Park, the city of Coralville and the Johnson County "corridor" zone. The commission also approved the popular Thanksgiving weekend and late January seasons for another year.

Of course, any hunter sitting in an October bow stand or posted up on a December shotgun season drive still expects that big buck. Allocation of any-sex tags -- which hunters can use to take bucks -- essentially will be the same. A non-landowner hunter can purchase one or two of them, depending on the seasons hunted. However, with deer seasons stretching over four months, we are starting to get the hint.

"Our hunters are really adapting to the quality deer management philosophy," Suchy says. "You have to kill does and pass up the little bucks to keep the herd from growing. You can still have a great time."

Details of the seasons and regulations; including adjustments in the blaze orange requirement for ground blinds, youth season regulations and landowner eligibility will be spelled out in the deer regulations booklets available online or at license outlets and DNR offices late this summer.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Of course, any hunter sitting in an October bow stand or posted up on a December shotgun season drive still expects that big buck. Allocation of any-sex tags -- which hunters can use to take bucks -- essentially will be the same. A non-landowner hunter can purchase one or two of them, depending on the seasons hunted. However, with deer seasons stretching over four months, <span style="color: #FF0000">we are starting to get the hint</span>. </div></div>

I can't figure out this line. Who is "we" and which "hint" are "we" supposed to be getting?

Not trying to start anything, I just need clarification, or maybe I should ease back on the meds. The line just doesn't fit into the paragraph. Any help?

The 'Bonker
 
My take: He is trying to say that "we" hunters (with longer seasons and increased doe harvest rates) are getting the "hint" that more does need shot.

Anybody that this is just dawning on has been under a rock somewhere.
 
Where did you find info on the extra doe tags. I couldnt find any current info on the DNR webpage for the 2008 season.
 
Has anyone else noticed the lack of fawns this year? I've been doing quite a bit of scouting the past 2 weeks and have only seen maybe 5-10 fawns and prly 200 does. I know they're harder to spot but even my trailcams are lacking pics of fawns. Just pulled a camera today that had 190 pics 80% does and 1 fawn with spots.

I just hope that if the deer herd ever gets to the desired level the dnr will cut back on doe tags. I know it's easier to get changes passed than reversed or cut back.

I guess time will tell but I'm normally seeing at least ten times the fawns I've seen this year.
 
On my trailcams in Cedar County, I'm getting the same number of fawn pics as I usually do, maybe more. These tags are county specific, so hopefully the DNR is getting it right. If not, deer have the ability to rebound in dramatic fashion once the pressure is lifted. The Iowa DNR is responsible for the great hunting we are now experiencing and I think they truly have our best interest in mind when establishing policy. If anybody thinks otherwise, I've found Mr. Suchy and others within the DNR very approachable. I would suggest that people contact them with their views and concerns. If I think the deer herd in the areas I hunt has been excessively thinned, I know I'll be calling them, again......
 
How and why will more antlerless tags really help? For the last several years these counties down here haven't sold out of antler less tags so why is having more unsold tags helping anything. Also time to get back on the old soap box. Exactly what are "Acceptable Levels" for deer populations and harvests? In 2005 we killed 211,000 deer, in 2006 it dropped to 165,000, and 2007 dropped clear down to 146,000 even will thousands of more antlerless tags available. If this trend continues can we expect 2008 to be in the 120,000s somewhere and if so why do we need more than 120,000 antlerless only tags available? I still contend that we are killing off our future deer hunting and if deer populations drop to 1980 levels we will be going back to a resident draw system, or will we still try to sell 390,000 licenses, like in the last couple of years, to harvest 120,000 deer. Last year, if memory serves correctly, there were almost 390,000 tags sold and we harvested only 146,000 deer. I believe that these numbers are correct based on info that was on the Iowa DNR site earlier this year, but now that info doesn't seem to be there or I just can't find it again. All I could find now was the county by county harvest numbers that showed a total harvest of 146,214. We must be turning into really bad deer hunters to have a success ratio of less than 40% or there just aren't enough deer to legitimize license sales of this magnitude.
 
The only thing I have to add is the harvest data between '05-'06 chaged because of the reporting system. I think they used to overestimate deer kills in the past.

Are tag quotas going up in the counties that didn't sell out?

The 'Bonker
 
My property is near BowMaker, and from my first fall down there, I kept asking myself,,where are all the herds of deer I've heard about down here.? I do not trust Official deer numbers.The state I came from had the same constant drum beat,,Too many Deer,,,Too many Deer,, until you could sit all week and see a doe,,maybe.I am sure there are pockets of high pops,like up here near Boone, in the semi, farm,,semi suburbs. An evening drive here,, you see large groups in every yard,, but my area down south, does not have this,,no matter what the DNR says.
 
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