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Non-Resident Antlerless Tags and Land Access

OneCam

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Iowa compared to its neighboring states is relatively easy to gain hunting access to private grounds. Iowa Sportsman and women have shown they want to keep it this way by taking a strong stance within the legislative front by stifling all efforts to increase non-resident tags – specifically either sex tags.

Land access is still slowly shrinking with the ever-increasing demand on land and leasing. Laws and regulations are the only means for slowing this trend to reasonable levels. Simply put the more non-resident tags made available the more demand thus the more land acquisition and leasing. Currently non-residents are hesitant to purchase or lease land in Iowa because tags are not readily available on a yearly basis. If non-residents can be guaranteed tags each year demand for land will increase tremendously thus further eliminating overall land access.

During the 2004-2005 hunting season the IDNR sold 8,479 non-resident deer licenses – 6,000 either sex tags and 2,479 antlerless tags. The either sex tags of course are the most sought after by allowing those that possess one to harvest a potential Iowa trophy buck. Antlerless tags are becoming increasingly more popular each year even at the cost of $150 plus $80 license and an $8 habitat fee.

Antlerless tags are sought after by the following groups;

* The first group is one that I believe we all can fully support. They are family members hunting during the special Holiday season which tags are purchased at a low rate of $50. Yet this group makes up the least tag purchases of my grouping.

* Individuals with special interest in Iowa and Iowa’s land will purchase these tags as they may either own or lease ground in Iowa.

* Party hunters. Did you know a Non Resident hunting during the first or Second shotgun season can purchase a cheaper antlerless tag and legally shoot a buck. In fact that individual can shoot as many bucks as they have individuals possessing either sex tags hunting with them.

* The final group is in my opinion purchasing “temptation tags†with some coming to Iowa with every intention on shooting a buck.

So antlerless tags that at first seem to create a harmless void are in effect allowing non-resident hunters a means to hunt the state for bucks each and every year. One could even make the argument that individuals that purchase antlerless tags displace more hunters than the average individual that purchases an occasional either sex tag.

Many are aware of the recent Senate bill, which is for the most part a very positive. Topics addressed in this bill cover landowner certification, depredation tags, harvest reporting, special hunts and allocating an additional antlerless tag with each successful either sex tag drawn. The one area of concern for Iowa hunters should be the proposed removal of the 2,500 cap on non-resident antlerless tags.

Senator Black and others will state that the removal of the cap on NR antlerless tags will allow the DNR to reduce the number of as they see fit. Stating the DNR will set the number of tags sold based on Biological standards. Yet the DNR has already stated that non-residents are not a factor in the overall population control strategy. At the same time the DNR has repeatedly asked for increased numbers of both either-sex and antlerless tags. Increased revenue is on the agenda and you should be very concerned that the total sales of antlerless tags will be increased substantially.

Still don’t see why these tags will displace hunters – let me paint a picture … New Iowa Outfitter dialog with a non-resident hunter that was unsuccessful drawing a “buck†tag, “Don’t worry about drawing a tag, you can still come hunt with us and when you shoot your trophy buck my cousin will tag it and it’s perfectly legal … oh and by the way I just leased 3,000 more acres so tell your buddiesâ€.

Now is the time to act – contact your Legislators and your Conservation group leaders. Be polite and tell them your stance on the proposal to remove the cap on antlerless tags.
 
Yeah, do everything you can to keep the NR out of Iowa. We are dangerous. We have ruined Kansas, Ohio, Wisconsin, and others that allow NR landowners to hunt every year. I could go on and on.
 
Can you iowawhitetailers hear a violin in the back ground... I think we need some cheese with that bottemless bottle of wine... you should go on and on!!!
 
Has anyone ever considered the poor farmer who would love nothing more than to be able to either sell his farm for more than 1000/acre or to the farmer who would love nothing more than to collect the 5,000 dollars he could get for letting a group come in and hunt his farm, It is inevitable that out of state land owners will at some point be guarnteed a tag. After all, out of the 2.9 million people that live in Iowa, how many can really afford to plop down 400k for a farm which will be used strictly for hunting. Wisconsin this year implemented an earn a buck program. That will also deter out of state deer hunters from going to an outfitter, after all who wants to go all the way to iowa to shoot a doe before he or she can shoot a buck. No one wants a bunch of idiots from out of state running all over the place, but then again , hunters bring a substantial amount of revenue into many small communities everyyear
 
I think we should have an Earn a Buck Program for NR. Or issue tags per deer population per county.
Most, not all, NR that I see have NO respect for the law, land or landowners & try to get away w/ everything they can. They don't live here, they can damage the hunters reputation all they want & go home & don't have to deal w/ the ripple effect caused by their ignorance.
If the IDNR wants more revenue then they could fine the crap out of poachers, take everything they have & sell it in the spring. Seems these poachers get bolder every year.
The IDNR could increase the price of NR tags. There are plenty of NR w/ big pockets. Kinda like when we go out of state to shoot a muley, elk, bear, antelope, moose or whatever else we don't have. We pay dearly to get those tags.
Iowa has whitetails & waterfowl. We really don't have anything else to capitalize on that NR are willing to pay for.
We had better start licensing our "outfitters" also.
 
What are outfitters required to currently do by law now? Do they have to have a federal tax ID number? Any general liabilites or comp?
 
If they get paid by cash or MO, nothing. They may get a state tax # if they are honest, no license required for outfitting or guiding. Draw up a contract releasing yourself of any liability, put an ad in the paper, get some camo & a truck, get some clients...then you are a guide.
 
I am a nonresident landowner. Used to live in Iowa. I am strictly a bowhunter so I hate the 35% rule. I can only draw a tag about one out of 2 tries. If I shotgun hunt (I never have), I can try to draw an either sex tag, and if unsuccessful, I can then buy an antlerless tag and hunt with a group with lots of tags and still kill a buck. Why does Iowa limit the bowhunters to just 35% of the tags? I'm more than willing to earn a buck too. I buy an antlerless tag each year just so I can at least enjoy my farm a little bit. The law could be written so only NR owners who owned the land before (pick a date) could get a tag each year. Or you could make someone own the land 5-10 years before they get the guaranteed tag. Lots of options to discourage land purchases for just hunting.
 
Ibohunt65,

Some info from another thread regarding the 35% cap.


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The 35%, as written in law, was not a result of the efforts of the IBA; it
was done by a Des Moines legislator as an amendment in 1996 without our
knowledge or support. Prior to that, as a compromise to many bowhunters
during the original non-resident law passage, we had an unwritten agreement
with the DNR that guaranteed that no less than 35% of the would be archery
tags. This was done because it was feared that most of the tags would go to
gun hunters and the bowhunter would be pushed out.

In all the negotiations the past number of years we have made no efforts to
keep the 35% rule and have publically stated many time that we don't care.
However, its there and since no changes have been allowed to the basic
non-resident law structure, it probably be there for a while. We have
nothing to admit to, we didn't do it.

It is always interesting to listen to the debate on the 35% rule. There are
plenty in the DNR who feel this locks out too many shotgun hunters and there
are nonresident who feel they are kept from a license when the truth is
there chances of obtaining a nonresident archery license will go down if
this percentage is eliminated.

Hope is answers your question.That was pretty close to my thoughts but wanted to make sure.


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Yes, I'm aware the IBA didn't ask for it. I'm not sure if it helps or hurts to be honest. All I would like is a fair opportunity to draw. Everyone having the same chance.

I think it should be a "minimum of 35%" but I think it is being read as a "maximum of 35%". Once 2100 bowhunters have drawn, the rest must be gun hunters. Is this right or wrong?
 
I was one of the people who has met with the DNR in years past as an IBA Board Memeber. I can tell you we argued for several years with Al Farris of the DNR trying to get them to insitute the preference point program. His argument was mainly that it was too much hassle. However we continued to argue FOR an preference point program and it was finally put in place. This was only fair, to allow non-residents a reasonable chance to regulary draw a tag. One thing that non-residents tend to forget is that as bowhunters in Iowa deer are all we really have for big game. We don't have elk, mulies, lions, mountain goats and so on. Please forgive us if we are very protective of our only big game animal. Our goal is to allow EVERYONE a fair chance at a QUALITY hunt.
 
As long as hostility towards non-residents exists from people like you, Nr's and residents will never get along. The few people like you in Iowa have been hurting the average guy who just wants to come and hunt Iowa with his family. Most Iowa residents honestly don't think non-residents are a problem. I challange to find statistics showing that non-residents are buying up the land. It's merely your half-truths. Really, I want to see the number of developers that buy up land. I would say they buy the most of it. Please, don't taint the debate with opinion. Let's see some numbers to support your arguement.

this is in regards to handcannon's post.
 
Mathew's Shooter.
You really get worked up about this non resident thing. If it bothers you that much on how Iowa handles this issue, go and find another state to hunt. There are plenty of states that have just as big of deer and the prices are cheaper. Go to one of those states. I am not trying to be and a-- but quit trying to beat a dead horse. This is the way it is and it probably won't change anytime soon if at all. Good luck with whatever you choose.
 
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