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Quality vs. Quantity; My Thoughts

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This is a short article I wrote on my website, TrophyPursuit.com. I think it's an interesting topic, and would love to hear your thoughts.

“The more the merrier.” Although this saying rings true in many parts of one’s life, when it comes to bow hunting (for 95+%of bow hunters in Iowa) I feel like it’s far from the best mindset for one to have. There are obviously several factors that can influence ones decision ‘to hunt or not to hunt,’ but when does quantity (# of days in the stand) start to hinder the quality of ones sits?

Back in my earlier days of bow hunting, I would be in the stand every free chance I had. Here in Iowa, the season opens October 1st and ends January 10th (except for a few weeks during firearms season). I had the mindset that quantity was more important than quality. My trail cameras were capturing photos of big bucks, and I was biting at the bit to start hunting them as soon as the season opened. Little did I realize was that most of these whitetails were nocturnal and only moving under the cover of darkness. All I was doing was making them realize that they were being hunted. No matter how hard you hunt, you won’t kill a buck if he’s not moving in the daylight, and I soon realized that I was burning out my stands before ‘the hunting got good.’

You can't kill them if they aren't moving during daylight
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Now, although the season opens October 1st, I hardly step foot in the woods before October 25th. I feel that QUALITY strongly outweighs QUANTITY, and that hunting unsuspecting whitetails that are naturally moving more during daylight hours is my best bet in filling a tag. As the rut approaches, mature bucks, especially unpressured mature bucks, will naturally begin to turn into ‘daywalkers,’ and will become susceptible to being caught off guard by a stealthy and smart bow hunter.
There are, however, exceptions to the rule. Those who have access to 1000’s of acres, therefore being able to jump around and keep pressure low, don’t have to worry as much about pressuring the bucks too much that they are hunting. Also, the ‘October 25th’ rule that I use doesn’t always ring true. If a buck shows up on my trail cameras that is moving during daylight (in early October), or a front is pushing through that I feel may get a big buck up and on his feet, I may decide to ‘put my cards all in’ and move in for the kill. This, although more times than not hasn't worked, can pay off big.
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So, take a look at your hunting situation. What has or hasn’t worked for you? When have you killed most of your whitetails? When do the mature bucks begin to move during the daylight on the farms you hunt? Are you putting too much emphasis on quantity, and not enough on quality? Too each their own, but for me, I’ve noticed my success rate skyrocket when I’ve held back, and moved in for the kill when the time was right.
 
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Good thoughts and advice Chris! For some dumb reason last year I got into this competition with myself to see how many hours I could put on stand. I originally didn't intend to start hunting very early, but got started mid-early october and couldn't stop after that. How many shooter bucks did I see last year??? 1.....maybe that's a hint. I intend to take my time this year. I do plan to do a couple early sits, not in the "hot spots" but rather set up out of the way and watch more than anything. I plan to take my daughter this weekend for a short evening sit and hopefully shoot a doe. Thanks for the thoughts!
 
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Great post Chris. I rarely get daylight pics of the big ones where I hunt until nov 10 or later. However this year we have daylight pics of a 160 plus that lives right by the farmers house(150yds). Needless to say I'll be sitting this weekend for the first cold front. Usually I don't even bother until Oct 25
 
I will most likely be out Friday and Saturday for my only two early season hunts. I have plenty of geese to try to kill to keep me occupied. This will be the first year I am going to wait to hunt, and I had fully intended to wait until after early muzzleloader to start, but with the crops out and this weather system coming through I have to sit once. Gonna try to make it happen on Oct. 5. Is that a good day to be in stand JJohnson?
 
That being said if I were a betting man(which I am). I would bet on the big buck by the house! At least betting on fresh doe backstraps on the grill Monday
 
Good stuff Chris! Definitely have to utilize the cams and decipher which bucks are daylight walkers and which ones you need to be patient with.

Definitely important not to blow out your good stands early. Entry and exit routes are key if you are going to set up on a big deer early in the season. Thanks for sharing :way:
 
I go out every chance I get. You can't kill a big one if you are at home watching tv when he walks by your stand at 20 yards. That said, every hunter needs a few good stands to play with. In my opinion, you can hunt the same stand for as long at you want as long as the wind is right and you have good quiet access. I usually hunt travel routes so I can get away with hunting one stand for a few days in a row. To me it's about the fundamentals. Play the wind. Know where the deer come from. Blend yourself in well. And be ready for the shot when your opportunity comes. Usually I only see one or two shooter bucks a year and usually I find a way to put one of them on the ground.
 
I couldnt agree more with your post Chris. The last few years I have been staying out until Oct 22-25ish. Then its go time! Usually kill one within the first few sits. Years prior I would sit quite often, but still only on wkends. I can honestly say I have not been busted by a deer in 5+ years. But even having said that, I am a firm believer that even if they dont smell you or bust you, they still know you were there.

Its all a game of odds. Stay out until your odds are best!!
 
I hunt because I enjoy the experience. Every so often I'm lucky enough to have a nice buck walk in front of me, but most years not. So, for me it's about the experience. I'm pretty much a weekend hunter, and the way I figure it, most years you have about 8 or 9 weekends in the year to sit in a stand and watch God's creation come to life. I'm not going to give up 1 or more of the weekends I have available if I can help it. So if the weather is right and I don't have another commitment, you'll likely find me in a tree. I know you will this weekend...and if I spook a giant and screw up my chances for later in the season, so be it :D

NWBuck
 
Lots of rules to live by in this thread. Here are a few take aways as I see them.
1. If you are out there just to hunt, then get out there and get after it. Who knows, you may just have a bruiser walk by.
2. If you are out there to hunt big bucks, then wait until you are certain there is a mature buck on its feet during daylight hours. Hunt smart and make it happen.
Great thread Chris.
 
I have only hunted in IA ,7 yrs,,but in my area, I have only seen 5 yr olds and older from Nov 10th to the 20th,,none earlier,so that's what I concentrate on. Only have 3 stands to play with too.+
 
For me the time is now. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Go hard in October and go elsewhere in November Kaare,...lol. Sad, but true.

Elsewhere as in commitments to things other than hunting. Also, it's darkm so early in Nov. here that the weekday after work warrior that I am now is not applicable. I simply will not wait for Nov as I am pretty much guaranteed to get out once a week and the deer I am am hunting now, he could be miles away then. If I blow my chance now I simply feel that I am better off to have tried and lost than waited in the wings and never got the chance to play. Definately different scenarios for diff't people. I've killed some real nice bucks in Nov, but I've never dumped a real hummdinger then. Any I'd categorize there went down in Oct.... the 17th at the latest.
 
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Every year some true giants take dirt naps early, so there's always a chance. Think we've already seen a 170+ shot during youth season this year :D

NWBuck
 
Great thread Chris. Throughout college, I was unable to hunt because school work and playing two sports had every minute of mine tied up. Since college I have been so eager to get out and hunt that I have definitely taken the quantity the last few years but last year I learned my lesson. I hunted a lot early last year and saw a lot of deer and as the season went on, I saw less and less. I have access to only 50 some acres and only have 1 way (direction) to access that property. Those deer caught on...i know they did. Our season has been open since Sept 22 and I have not been out yet. I have however gained access to a couple other spots that I will try here and there during October and let my good stands sit patiently for NOV. I will be out this weekend at some point with the weather the way it is. But your Quality vs Quantity scenario is exactly what happened to me last year. And the quality definitely went down as the season went along. I have not shot a buck worthy of the wall yet and that is my goal. And I figured my best chances of getting that done is to limit the # of early sits at my good spots. I agree with how Jakewym put it. Great thread
 
Great info and well put. So, if you happen to put too much pressure on a bruiser too early in October and he goes nocturnal, isn't the rut going to get him back on his feet and available during the day a few weeks later. I guess I don't see the benefit in waiting, and I see a lot of benefit to get out there early and try. The one thing about bow hunting is you never know whats going to walk by and it only takes 5 minutes to make your season.. That's my theory anyway, but I normally only hunt on weekends, so I'm not putting a ton of pressure on them early.
 
i have at least 1 stand i wont touch untill halloween, and the other stands i will hunt from this weekend on, but i only get out 1 or 2 times a week.
 
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