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DONW
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guitarzan:
Nothing against the recurve-hunted plenty of years in the past with some good ones and I know that there are good ones out there now. Based on the experience of some of my bow hunting friends who tried to go back to the recurve, you will be hanging it on the wall to look at after a few weeks, especially if you have bad shoulders like some of us have. Having said this, of course you may be the exception and will be delighted with the results
Best Regards,
Don
Nothing against the recurve-hunted plenty of years in the past with some good ones and I know that there are good ones out there now. Based on the experience of some of my bow hunting friends who tried to go back to the recurve, you will be hanging it on the wall to look at after a few weeks, especially if you have bad shoulders like some of us have. Having said this, of course you may be the exception and will be delighted with the results
Best Regards,
Don
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hawkeye68
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I agree with DonW. Every fall rolls around and my buddies with recurves call me up to help them track a wounded deer, most of which are never recovered. I believe in the modern era, we owe it to the animals to make clean kills. I take advantage of technology and am happy to wear my gore-tex and drive my vehicle to my huntin' area. I know there are so called traditionalists out there, but I don't see them riding a horse to their huntin' area or wearing a loin cloth like the indians.
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wanab.c.
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I love my blk.widow.I have made shots I never could have with a compound and wounding deer has never been a problem.
Sure I dont shoot as well with a recurve,but I feel Iam bowhunting instead of deer hunting.
I never got good with my recurve till I sold my compound,it was hard to pick a spot without a sightpin also,but I learned.
And a black widow is worth the money.
Sure I dont shoot as well with a recurve,but I feel Iam bowhunting instead of deer hunting.
I never got good with my recurve till I sold my compound,it was hard to pick a spot without a sightpin also,but I learned.
And a black widow is worth the money.
Shovelbuck
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Guitarzan, It's been my experience that people that learned to shoot with a compound have a harder time switching to a recurve than those that learned with one and are switching back. With that said, don't let the stories of crippled and lost deer scare you away from another fastinating part of this sport we call archery! I learned to shoot and won many state titles with a recurve. When the wheel bows first came out I switched to them. I've now switched back to a recurve. Allthough I knew how to shoot one, it has taken alot of work and commitment to get shooting good with it. There is more that one way to shoot a recurve. Don't get caught up in the traditional / instinctive loop. You have many options to aim with. Point of arrow allways works good as does gap shooting. I've been trying the instinctive way for 3 months and it's not working for me and I'll go to stringwalking and point of arrow aiming. Try all ways and find one that works best for you. Most of all have fun and if you decide to hunt, only take shots that you feel are in your comfort zone. Which is what all bowhunters should do no matter what equipment we choose to use. High tech equipment or low tech, one is not better than the other but just a different way of accomplishing your goal. Shoot straight and have fun, Jay
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deerman
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I agree with Shovelbuck.I shot recurve for 20 years and then last year I picked up a wheelbow.What I noticed right off is the the strength in the arm is just the opposite.I had to turn the compound down to 50lbs.,Which is still plenty for what I want to do with it.My recurve is 52lbs.but, at a very different position of the arm when drawing back.I also had alot of razing and teased by my friends about going to the wheels.But I can shoot alot better with the wheels.I hate to say the traditionals are getting too picky about the little stuff.Once I went to a bow shoot and was signing up.I had the recurve at the time.The head guy said I wasn't traditional because I had a flipper rest....I have Killed many deer with my old recurve and I have wounded some too.I've double lunged them on the run and missed completly when standing still.If ya do go to recurve do alot of practicing til your confident.Then take it hunting and don't give up.Because when you get your first deer,it will be very gratifing.The arrow is slower so the deer need to be closer.Also the the slower arrow lets you see the flight to the deer more which is a thrill.Its awesome,even on the doe.Good luck.
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Bowdon
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Donw: Thats what happen to me to back in the 80s I was winning most all the shoot in the state so I went back to the recurve for a change and I was shooting great still winning most of the shoots betting almost all the compound shooter and there was no trad. div. but, I could shoot 2 inch group at 30 yards all day and shoot in the 290s NFFA indoor bare bow with it. After hunting about 3 years with it I started to lose some deer not because of the hits but, I wasn't getting pentration with my 2216 and 65 lb recurve. Than I lost a realy big one hitting it good but, hitting a rib only pentrating one lung found it dead two days later a mile away so, I went home every mad at myself and told my wife I was going to quit bowhunting or go back to the compound. Went back to a compound and have never looked back and have been pass through every thing and not losing any thing. I have been bowhunting for 38 years and have taken lots of deer with a recurves and the compounds. Recuvre are fun to shoot and are very accurate but, hunting I will stay with the compound. I beleave I owe it to the game I hunt to be the best I can be and to make the clesnest kills I can and most of all I owe it to myself.
BW
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Mind over matter. If you set your mind to do something, nothing else matters.
You are the only one that needs to be satisfied with your hunting or the tools you use. Try to be your best, no matter what you use, it will reward you with satisfaction.
If stickbow is in your blood, then nothing will stop you. In the BC days many archers harvested deer regularly with recurve bows in the 40-45# range. Unless you have a physical challenge, you just have to get over the mental hurdles.
My own personal opinion is to stick with one tool (or bow) and master it. But there is such a variety out there today to spend money on, it is difficult.
Have fun!
You are the only one that needs to be satisfied with your hunting or the tools you use. Try to be your best, no matter what you use, it will reward you with satisfaction.
If stickbow is in your blood, then nothing will stop you. In the BC days many archers harvested deer regularly with recurve bows in the 40-45# range. Unless you have a physical challenge, you just have to get over the mental hurdles.
My own personal opinion is to stick with one tool (or bow) and master it. But there is such a variety out there today to spend money on, it is difficult.
Have fun!
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I would guess that if someone shot a deer in the goodies with a 65# recurve and only acheived one lung penetration, perhaps the sharpness of the broadheads should be in question.....not the bow. 50# ers with a sharp broadhead can go thru a shoulder...something that is nearly unattainable with 3-blade, light arrowed setup from a compound. I like what was said earlier...neither is better than the other. It is just a different path to take your journey on.
Hooey on the fellas that say 'no carbon or rests or you're not traditional'. It is a state of mind. And I like carbon for the durability. Anyhow, fiberglass was widely used in the heydays of what traditional is derived from. Just remember...you gotta be closer than a compound,practice tons more, not as high in a treestand....but you can shoot from any angle and the fun factor is higher. Just pick one or the other and stick with it or you won't be as proficient as you like. Good luck.
Swanny
Hooey on the fellas that say 'no carbon or rests or you're not traditional'. It is a state of mind. And I like carbon for the durability. Anyhow, fiberglass was widely used in the heydays of what traditional is derived from. Just remember...you gotta be closer than a compound,practice tons more, not as high in a treestand....but you can shoot from any angle and the fun factor is higher. Just pick one or the other and stick with it or you won't be as proficient as you like. Good luck.
Swanny
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wanab.c.
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very well said swanny.
And I dont know anyone that hunts with a compound and a recurve,one or the other is best.
randy
And I dont know anyone that hunts with a compound and a recurve,one or the other is best.
randy
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Bowdon
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Sorry guys but your talking about me and I have taken a tons of deer,Elk,bear and so on with recurves in the 60s to through the 70s and about three years in the 80s and I all way shot around 60 to 65 lb and all the guys I ever hunted with around home and out west with shot with 55 to 65 lbs. When you hit the rid high it,s hard to brake the arrow only got about 10 inchs pentration going a little forward in the deer if it would of went about 2 inchs more it would of got both, only getting one lung and the suffer three blade head was razor sharp. Back in the 60s to the 70's we didn't have the recurve you guys have today. 160 FPS was a fast recurve and a fast compound didn't get even 200 Fps back then. There are some old timers down in Ottumwa that shot well can tell about me and my shooting with a recurve because I have shot with all of them and have won lots of Ottumwas shoots back then if you want to know if I know my stuff about archery. If you hunt with a recurve good and have fun but, don't come at me like I don't know whats going on, in 38 years I have seen and done about every thing in archery there is to do with recurves and yes compounds.
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All,
Recurves have been a big part of my life, I have hunted with them for over 15 years. Alot of what everyone writes is true so I have no arguements.In my view traditional hunters are from a different mold. The equipment they use is an extension of themselves. I shoot a Schafer SilverTip mostly because of the man that made it. I also have a compound that I hunt with and feel it works well for the purpose that it's used. I am glad not everyone uses traditional equipment, it makes me unique. I arrowed a 70 inch NE antelope with a recurve and a wood arrow and Zwicky broadhead, he is in the top 30 in that state and at one time he was #12 in NE just over Del Austins big antelope, yes he shot a big antelope too.
Anyway, I miss hearing about Paul and his miraculous hunting feats.
Just a little about me and my hero.
TLH
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Paul Schafer to the left and a SilverTip grizzley and SilverTip Bow.
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Recurves have been a big part of my life, I have hunted with them for over 15 years. Alot of what everyone writes is true so I have no arguements.In my view traditional hunters are from a different mold. The equipment they use is an extension of themselves. I shoot a Schafer SilverTip mostly because of the man that made it. I also have a compound that I hunt with and feel it works well for the purpose that it's used. I am glad not everyone uses traditional equipment, it makes me unique. I arrowed a 70 inch NE antelope with a recurve and a wood arrow and Zwicky broadhead, he is in the top 30 in that state and at one time he was #12 in NE just over Del Austins big antelope, yes he shot a big antelope too.
Anyway, I miss hearing about Paul and his miraculous hunting feats.
Just a little about me and my hero.
TLH
Photo property of Schafer SilverTip Bows
Paul Schafer to the left and a SilverTip grizzley and SilverTip Bow.
MoreOnPaulSchafer
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I always liked that pic....I wish I could find a large one to have it framed.
Bowdon...I did not mean to pick on you. That is usually a large reason for poor penetration...dull broadheads. And I don't really care how long a person has shot...or especially what they have won in a shoot. I am not a believer in someone who beats his own drum. Being a good target shot has little to do with hunting. Some of the best gimpers I know have hunted for nearly as long as you have and shouldn't be considered bowhunters (you not included). I will stick with my stick cause I think it works for me....read about Paul and you will see how it worked for him. Like I said, neither is wrong or better....it is a preference.
Bowdon...I did not mean to pick on you. That is usually a large reason for poor penetration...dull broadheads. And I don't really care how long a person has shot...or especially what they have won in a shoot. I am not a believer in someone who beats his own drum. Being a good target shot has little to do with hunting. Some of the best gimpers I know have hunted for nearly as long as you have and shouldn't be considered bowhunters (you not included). I will stick with my stick cause I think it works for me....read about Paul and you will see how it worked for him. Like I said, neither is wrong or better....it is a preference.
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wanab.c.
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swanny could you let me know if you find a source for P.Schafer picture,also whos in the photo with Paul.Also sounds like you like carbons I been kicking the idea around to try them,I dont like the fact that you cant see the arrow hit the animal sometimes with compounds but with a recurve is this a problem?
I have 25 years of bowhunting behind me, a few years less then some of you.I dont try to step on any toes,I shoot a recurve because it does everything I need it to do,I shoot it well,and its FUN!
I always thought its possible to shoot a compound again later on, but I will have to wait and see as I found out on 12/01 that I have leukemia,been doing well on gleevec and plan on hunting for a long time.
shoot what you like,I do randy
I have 25 years of bowhunting behind me, a few years less then some of you.I dont try to step on any toes,I shoot a recurve because it does everything I need it to do,I shoot it well,and its FUN!
I always thought its possible to shoot a compound again later on, but I will have to wait and see as I found out on 12/01 that I have leukemia,been doing well on gleevec and plan on hunting for a long time.
shoot what you like,I do randy
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Here are my personal favorites, Paul young, lean and mean.
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Photo property of Schafer SilverTip Bows
If you would like more information on Paul and his amazing life just e-mail/
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I think they need to write a book about him. The stories about him on the website are very interesting....and leave you wanting more. Notice his carbon arrows he was shooting back then.
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I first saw that picture with the story on the bear. Paul didn't shoot that brown bear. I can't remember which of those fellows did. Then I saw another article in Traditional bowhunter about one of the fellows in that picture passing away in a bush plane accident. I think the recurve was something like a 90# bow that he used to shoot that bear. Little old me couldn't pull that thing back half way!
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DONW
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wanab.c.
God Bless You! You will be in our prayers.
Makes all this commotion about recurves and commpounds seem kinda silly, doesn't it???
Don
God Bless You! You will be in our prayers.
Makes all this commotion about recurves and commpounds seem kinda silly, doesn't it???
Don
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Ollie
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Paul Schafer took some fantastic video on some of his hunts. Some of my friends used to hunt with Schafer and have personaly seen the video tapes. His family has control of the tapes and has turned down several attempts to have them released to the public. It is also my understanding that they do not want to cooperate with several of his friends who approached them about writing a book about Paul. A real shame as this man was truly a legend...he just didn't brag about his exploits, wrote very few articles, and did no endorsements. Most of the animals he shot would score very high in the record books. He chose not to have them entered for personal reasons. Many of his mounts are on display at the Bozeman, Montana airport terminal.