Shovelbuck
Active Member
I shoot three under. When I used to shoot competitive barebow I needed to be able to string walk for different yardages. Only for long shots did I go to one above.
Don't know if there's really any advantage one way or the other for instinctive shooting. It's just comfortable for me.
Don't know if there's really any advantage one way or the other for instinctive shooting. It's just comfortable for me.
Fishbonker
Life Member
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Like Shovel, I walked the string as I needed to.
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Not sure what this means. Do you move the arrow/nock up and/or down the string? If so why?
Thanks.
The 'Bonker
Like Shovel, I walked the string as I needed to.
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Not sure what this means. Do you move the arrow/nock up and/or down the string? If so why?
Thanks.
The 'Bonker
HOWATTANDHAWKEN
PMA Member
I shoot 3 under because I always have , I dont know of any benefits but my kids both shoot split fingers , They think three under is weird, I think split finger is weird. It's just personal Pref I guess.
I shoot one over/two under. The only real advantage to three under is you bring the arrow shaft more in line with your eye. So if you sight down the arrow to aim it is easier. If you instinctively shoot it doesn't make a difference. The main thing is that it feels natural to you.
Split finger here. I shoot instinctive out to 20 yards and gap shoot past that.
Whatever feels natural is best, try both for a while.
Most off the rack bows are tillered for split finger. If you end up shooting 3 under a custom bowyer will adjust your tiller just for that style of pull. Just a little better use of the limbs for ya.
Whatever feels natural is best, try both for a while.
Most off the rack bows are tillered for split finger. If you end up shooting 3 under a custom bowyer will adjust your tiller just for that style of pull. Just a little better use of the limbs for ya.
I use one over two below because I learned that way and because it seems more natural. Other reasons are I build all my own arrows and like to use Mercury nocks which fit a little loose any way and I make my own strings using 14 strands of B50 which makes a little thinner serving. I don't like clamp on nock points so I tie all of mine with serving string so they are also smaller. All this keeps things a little loose so you can't jam the arrow against the nock point and pinch it on the string to draw three under. On a traditional bow, especially one that isn't true center shot, I feel that the arrow snapping free of the string can cause a lot of rear end kick and add the the "Paradox" effect. Also the way I handle an arrow is just by the nock end to place it on the string, so I can draw an arrow align it with the indicator on the nock, put it on the string, and draw without ever looking at it or loosing contact with the nock until I release. After a little practice this is a lot faster and smoother. At a couple of our rondevouse shoots I have a timed station that requires 3 arrows from a quiver in 25 seconds at 3 different targets, and I would almost garantee that those shooting 3 under can't do it. Try it some time and you will see what I mean. I know that the first shot means the most but you never know when a quick second would really help. If you want to try something just for fun sometimes, that really seems weird try the way most native amercians used with the first two fingers and the thumb. Very fast and very strong but feels funny. After all these years I have never honestly picked up on true instinctive shooting. I admit that I do sight down the shaft almost all the time and there fore I anchor high on my cheek just under my eye and use my top finger to help locate just at the edge of my eye. Just another reason for me to have one above the nock. Try both of these and research other methods and use what seems best and most natural for you and shoot a lot and have fun doing it.
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Try both of these and research other methods and use what seems best and most natural for you and shoot a lot and have fun doing it.
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I recently watched the "Masters of the Barebow" DVD. It has some incredable shooters / hunters interviewed and a lot of the shooting questions you will have are answered in it.
I picked up some good tips that have helped extend my range.
Try both of these and research other methods and use what seems best and most natural for you and shoot a lot and have fun doing it.
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I recently watched the "Masters of the Barebow" DVD. It has some incredable shooters / hunters interviewed and a lot of the shooting questions you will have are answered in it.
I picked up some good tips that have helped extend my range.
Shovelbuck
Active Member
I'll be trying the timed shooting this weekend. Sounds fun.
P.S. I feel I can do it easily.
Time will tell.
P.S. I feel I can do it easily.
Time will tell.
Benny
New Member
Three fingers under does get the arrow closer to the eye and if you can shoot well this way it should improve your shooting.
However this position has always felt awkward to me and I have stuck with two under and one over.
The main point is to get you anchor as close to your eye as possible but still allow yourself to shoot comfortably.
Asbell's Instinctive Shooting books give a good breakdown of the plus's and minus's of each method.
Its worth your money if you really want to shoot well.
However this position has always felt awkward to me and I have stuck with two under and one over.
The main point is to get you anchor as close to your eye as possible but still allow yourself to shoot comfortably.
Asbell's Instinctive Shooting books give a good breakdown of the plus's and minus's of each method.
Its worth your money if you really want to shoot well.
Shovelbuck
Active Member
Bowmaker, shooting three in 25 seconds isn't a problem. Hitting where I needed to on all three will require more practice.
Thanks for the incentive.
Thanks for the incentive.
gundog870
Premium Platinum Member
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Bowmaker, shooting three in 25 seconds isn't a problem. Hitting where I needed to on all three will require more practice.
Thanks for the incentive.
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HAHAHAHA. I may try it tonight. But dont want to lose any arrows!!
Can someone fill me in some more about walking the string. I have never heard of it. I know muddy touched on it, but can anyone tell me more. Like is you arrow still at the knock, etc. a little confused
Bowmaker, shooting three in 25 seconds isn't a problem. Hitting where I needed to on all three will require more practice.
Thanks for the incentive.
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HAHAHAHA. I may try it tonight. But dont want to lose any arrows!!
Can someone fill me in some more about walking the string. I have never heard of it. I know muddy touched on it, but can anyone tell me more. Like is you arrow still at the knock, etc. a little confused
Shovelbuck
Active Member
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Can someone fill me in some more about walking the string. I have never heard of it. I know muddy touched on it, but can anyone tell me more. Like is you arrow still at the knock, etc. a little confused
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Your arrow remains nocked on the string where it has allways been. If you use the tip of arrow for aiming, you move your fingers up and down the string for different yardages. It's basicly an adjustable sight for barebow shooting.
At close targets I would sometimes walk down the string as much as 2 inches. Generally was dead on three under around 35 or 40 then would go to one above from 50 yds. on out. The point was to keep your point of aim on the target instead of "gap" shooting.
Can someone fill me in some more about walking the string. I have never heard of it. I know muddy touched on it, but can anyone tell me more. Like is you arrow still at the knock, etc. a little confused
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Your arrow remains nocked on the string where it has allways been. If you use the tip of arrow for aiming, you move your fingers up and down the string for different yardages. It's basicly an adjustable sight for barebow shooting.
At close targets I would sometimes walk down the string as much as 2 inches. Generally was dead on three under around 35 or 40 then would go to one above from 50 yds. on out. The point was to keep your point of aim on the target instead of "gap" shooting.
teacher
New Member
Split finger here. Most bows you buy, that aren't custom made for 3fingers under, are tillered for split finger. Some say it doesn't make a difference but I think it does. The dynamics of the limbs change.
Split finger just feels more comfortable to me. Lot of awesome shots shooting 3 under though.
Split finger just feels more comfortable to me. Lot of awesome shots shooting 3 under though.
3 under lends itself to gap shooters well. It's a little easier to use the end of your arrow as a sight because the form brings the arrow closer to your eye. I've been gapping out past 25 yards and can see where 3 under would be nice. It's feels strange, couldn't get used to it.