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A fellow put up a tree stand about 8feet from my fence overlooking a good bedding area of my farm. he does not own land but has hunted there for years. When I bought the farm he ask if he and his family (and friends I'm sure) could hunt it. I told him I bought the farm so I could hunt and make the land better QDM land. Of course he laughed. About a month before the season started he put the tree stand up pointing right over my fence and he also wired down the fence so deer would pass through where his tree stand is. yes, I did undo the wire on the fence. Behind his stand is an open field so either he is left handed or his hunting over my fence. I hate to be a prick about it but I did not spend the money to buy 150 acres and put in food plots and practice QDM for someone to hunt over my fence. What would you about this?
 
That really stinks. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do. If he isn't set up on your side of the fence, he's not trespassing. Who owns the fence? If you own it and he's messing around with it by wiring it down, that's messing with your property. It's unfortunate for you that he has to set up so close, you know he will take a shot over to your side of the fence. I'm not sure what you could do except monitor the situation and make sure he doesn't trespass (trail camera?).
 
QDMer.....unfortunately, unless the stand is on your ground there is not a lot you can do about the situation.

I know how you feel though. I have the same situation on my place. The kicker is I had a stand about 25 yards away already in place. That burned me more than the thought of a stand on my fence line. Makes you wonder about some people's hunting ethics.
 
Put in a couple large poles and string snow fence between them. Put it at a height that will hinder or stop his ability to shoot your direction.
 
Place something that deer would be afraid of sight or smell to keep them away from the location he plans on shooting on your land. If he moves his stand to another location overlooking your land, move your anti bait. Don't have a good idea at the moment of what would work.
 
Could you pile brush that would divert the deer from the area and channel them in another direction?
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I like Shovelbuck's idea.
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There isn't much you can do but who owns the neighboring land? They would share the fence with you. Until he shoots on your side it isn't trespassing.
 
Well at least he did ask up front for permission to hunt. That might show something about his character.

Maybe he is only intending to shoot deer that cross onto the land that he has has permission to hunt. (I'd feel the same way you do though with a stand right on the border).

Rather than start out feuding, you could ask his intentions, and talk to him about what he intends to harvest.
Hopefully he won't just shoot any buck that comes across, or maybe he's in it for the meat, which may be beneficial to your goals if he's harvesting does.

As a last resort you could go with the fences / anit-bait suggestions.
 
I have the same issue this fall on some ground I hunt/in-laws own. I plan in putting a stand on the tree just opposite the fence from his...I won't hunt it of course and placing a bright no trespassing sign right on the fence line. I know his intentions, he trimmed shooting lanes on my side.
 
QDMer,

I have property in SC Iowa and the neighbor did the exact thing last season. I found the stand actually belonged to the neighboring landowners nephew. In attempt to be a good neighbor and sportsman like I let it go. Maintaining the good relationship I do have with landowner will benefit over the long haul. Good Luck.
 
Milorganite. It is a fertilizer that is made from human waste sludge. I have heard that landscapers use it on yards to reduce deer damage. I know of one person who said the deer used to have a trail across their yard, but after the land scaper applied Milorganite, the deer now stop at the edge of the timber and go around their yard. This product has been treated for sanitation purposes so there are no health risks. 50 pound bags are roughly $9.00 The only down side is you said it is a bedding area on your property, which the deer will abandon if you take this approach. Depends on how bad you want to prevent the person from shooting across the fence. I have been meaning to experiment with it on a tree planting. I actually went to buy some over my lunch hour, but got distracted by a sidewalk sale of hunting/fishing stuff (A guys gotta have his priorities). This method would be less obvious that putting up some sort of physical barrier.
 
You could:

1. Park your truck there when you hunt that area.

2. Build a Wisconsin style deer blind (icehouse elevated on four telephone poles) on the fence line. He would never know when you are there. Besides most deer seem to avoid them like the plague.

3. Give other people permission to hunt the fenceline and shoot all the does they want.

4. Get some beer and go visit this guy. I'm sure you can work something out.

Beer, not only helping the ugly sense 1864
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I have the same situation on my place. This guy lowered the fence also. I'm not sure what I'm going to do but come deer season it will be clear that he is not welcome on our side of the fence.

mike
 
If hes going to shoot across the fence its wrong, but if there are alot of trees on both sides and food on both sides I dont think hes doing anything wrong. I hunt a river bottom that Ive been hunting for quite awhile. There are trees on both sides of the river and plenty of food and deer. The guy across the river thinks all the deer should be shot by him only. When hes not hunting his time is spent trying to keep the deer from crossing the river. There are plenty of deer that spend most of there time on my side and cross over to his side. I dont try stopping them. The deer are wild animals and nobody owns them. I make a pretty good living but there is no way I can afford to buy hunting land and plant food plots just to hunt so I hunt private ground. I dream everyday of doing that but its along ways away. Im not the type of person to shoot over the river but where they cross back and forth is a very nice natural funnel and gives me alot of good shots at deer on my side. I dont think its right for him to drive his four wheeler every night along the river just because he knows I'm there. I got out of my tree stand one night when he drove his pick up right down by the river and asked him what the problem was. I shoot one deer a year. There are plenty of deer living on this side of the river crossing to your side. His only excuse was he doesn't like people who hunt fencelines. I guess he forgot he was standing under the stand he put up after he realized I was hunting. I moved my stand a good 200 yards from the river so he would leave me alone and he still bugs me almost everyday. Ive still had plenty of nice deer stay on the ground I hunt, they live there. I guess all Im saying is the deer are wild animals, I dont agree with wiring the fence down,but the deer are going to cross both ways. I dont agree with pushing up brush to devert deer. I do all I can for deer management but just because I cant plant food plots doesn't mean I cant hunt a big deer that travels from property to property.
 
Go to your local barber or beauty salon have thm save acouple garbage bags of hair clippings for you, than take the hair out and sprinkle it where you don't want deer to be! Not real noticeable to humans, but the deer will know it is there quick!
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Go talk to him like someone else said. If he gives you trouble, then take action...at your discretion. Unfortunately, their are a lot of hunters that use bad judgement. It brings the rest of us down.

Good Luck,

BT
 
I have a question for ya guys, kinda related to this. I used to hunt a block of timber about 5 yrs ago. We hunted it for nearly 10 years prior to this as my father lived next door to the owner. Now, I am planning on bowhunting it again this year. I went down in the timber last year with my young son and got him his first deer. As I was there I noticed my old permanent stand was not in the greatest shape but still usable. This spring I went back to turkey hunt and the stand was demolished, maybe by the weather? I dont know for sure. However right across the fence line was a new "stand" (extension ladder w/some really bad wood sides). Now I was just planning on rebuilding the stand anyways so I am not really concerned with the damage. But due to this new "stand" would you rebuild there. Keep in mind I hunted this place for 10 years and this is the SPOT to be. His stand is 10 feet from my fence line and directly above someone elses property line. So I am sure he is not only hunting his ground and he did not receive permission from the owner of "my" timber.
 
Mount an electronic call in the top of a tree on your property near this tree line. Run it with a deep cycle battery.
Get Vman to build you a device with a thermal switch pointed at the bottom of this guys stand. When he shows up to hunt he can knock himself out...listening to an array of screeching calls for several hours.

That is elaborate...but something should be able to be rigged up more simply that utilizes, or rather, assaults his sense of hearing.

I can do amazing things with Cat3 phone line and -24 volt power over long distances. Graybar/Anixter sell pbx phone system equipment and loudspeaker/intercom speakers that can really boom.

The key is using it when the guy is present.
 
Jnr I have worked around that stuff and it is pretty aromous.Definitely a good idea but also though if you have the deer coming in from bith ways wouldn't that detour them from their normal routes?
Booner had a good idea with the human hair.If that guy is intending on shooting over your ground that is just plain ratten and to tie your fenceline down is worse.Any way you could rig a camera close by to catch him in the act.That way if he is trespassing not only can you rake it to the adjoining landowner but if he keeps it up you would have the proof for the legal channels should you decide to go that route.
Hope that everything goes well this season.Good Luck.
 
bukket, i love that idea.


one thing to consider on the fenceline situation....normally,when a fence devides a property, each landowner owns half. from your side of the fence, your land owner owns the right-hand half, and the other side owner owns the other. so, i could be the other owners fence he has tied down, depending on how it lies
 
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