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What your thoughts on old bucks and cameras

shrek1

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We noticed alot of differences in deer and there tolerance levels of cameras. I will get young bucks and does numerous times, and old bucks maybe twice. On my home farm the deer had been using the same spot coming in and out of a timber for 15 years, and after 1 week of a camera they were using the complete opposite end of the timber.So did the camera help or hurt me?
 
Great first post Shrek1 and welcome to Iowawhitetail.

I think the odds of getting a good buck in front of the camera once let alone multiple times are small. I also believe that some deer are more tolerant than others. The push for improved IR cameras would tell me that many in the industry believe the flash is derogatory. I still believe that having your camera in the right place at the right time is more important than anything. I have had several cameras in a small area with zero visible effect on deer movement. I personally don’t think it makes a very big difference.
 
Welcome to the site!!!

Move your camera around more. Some bucks it will affect while others don't seem to mind at all.

I will say that a camera flash won't run any deer off your property. They may avoid that area but they won't leave the area.

I have taken pictures of mature bucks on four different cameras in four different locations all in the same week.

I for one, will not have any IR cameras. The pictures are black and white and I just haven't seen that a flash will scare a deer out of the country.

My 2 cents...
 
depends alot on the situation i think. I use mine with corn during the summer. Deer will put up with anything for that sweet yellow stuff. I think that it helps get them used to the cam and dont consider it a threat anymore. I dont really use mine during the fall/winter anymore after gettin one stolen last year, but I would guess they are a lot more tolerant once they are used to it. by the way. the biggest buck around here i have been gettin pics of for two years and i have well over 200. he was shot by another hunter this fall. he was a 190 class non typ and he wasnt scared off by it.
 
I dont think its the cameras that are spooking the bucks, I think its just the nature of the beast. I think deer's habits change daily and any deer is very reluctant to use the exact spot more than a few times in a couple weeks. If you think about it, your camera is only covering a 30 yard strip out of the entire timber. One day he might walk by the camera, the next day he could walk through 20 yards on the other side of the tree.
 
Another thought that wasn't brought up...the digitals are silent.

The old 35mm cameras made noise when the film advanced. I think the noise was making people think that deer had "flash shock".
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Also, consider the human scent/disturbance factor that goes along with playing the trailcam game. Probably a bigger factor.
 
This one is right up my alley! Years ago when I began using the trailcameras they were 35mm models and I rarely caught the same big buck twice in the same spot. Most times, just one shot and that was it. Of course, at that time, it was all we had we did not want to "believe" that the camera scared them. But, I think it mearly made them avoid the area, just like Ghost suggested.

Now that we have digital trail cameras, I am getting an entirely clearer picture of what happens. Again, as Ghost said, the 35mm film advance was definitely the culprit, and I say that with confidence. They just plain old did not like it. And I am talking about mature bucks, not necessarily does and immature bucks. My digitals are silent and I have countless pix of the same mature bucks both night and day. The flash, in my opinion, does little to effect them. I had a mature buck stand in a scrape for 5 minutes while my camera snapped picture after picture with the flash....no bother.

I too am curious about the IR cameras out today. I will definitely have one or two this summer to add to my arsenal of cameras. This whole camera thing has been a blessing and confidence builder in todays deer hunting world. Anyone who does not use them is absolutely missing out on some of the funnest most productive thing going on today!
 
We have four different brand camreas that are IR flash. Some of these cams when triggered display a red glow at the IR cluster and if this is in front of the deer it will most definately spook the animal. We raised the cameras above eyelevel and we began to get pics of the same deer that had been previously spooked by the IR flash. We have our cams out year around and many of the deer just seem to pose for their picture others become very nervious.
 
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