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Year-round hunting in NY ?

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By JOEL STASHENKO
Associated Press Writer
April 4 2004


ALBANY, N.Y.- Deer have eaten themselves out of their welcome on many New York farms, prompting a legislative proposal to allow hunting year-round on farmland to reduce damage to crops by hungry bucks, does and fawns.

With a new Cornell University study estimating deer do some $58.8 million in damage annually to New York crops, Assemblyman Clifford Crouch said current state programs to shoot deer on farmland are inadequate.

Crouch saw the damage firsthand when he ran a dairy farm in Bainbridge, Chenango County, in the 1970s and 1980s. Deer all but ruined an alfalfa field, reducing the second growth of the season from the normal 30 inches tall to less than a foot by "foraging on it every night. They kept mowing it off."

"The other thing that happens, it is not just losing the crop for that season," he said. "Certain crops like alfalfa don't like intensive mowing. If it is continually harvested like that, it will not grow back the next year and the following year is likely to die off."

According to the Cornell study, hay, alfalfa and grain crops were most susceptible to the appetite of deer, with about half the farmers participating in a wide-ranging survey reporting such damage. An estimated $20 million in other damage was done by deer to nursery products and fruit trees and even suburban neighborhoods are beset by foraging deer.

Farmers reported the worst damage on Long Island and in the lower Hudson Valley.

"There are a lot of deer - too many deer, some say - and they're eating farm crops like crazy," said Jeffrey Williams, legislative director in Albany for the New York Farm Bureau.

Michael Markarian, the national president of the Fund for Animals, said many states are liberalizing hunting rules or issuing more special permits to try to lower the size of deer herds. And New Yorkers are not alone in seeing the deer herd expand.

"Deer are very adaptable. They adapt very well to suburban life and they reproduce and they compensate for reductions probably the best of any species," Markarian said. "More hunting might result in a short-term population reduction, but it also means that the remaining deer will have a higher reproductive rate the next spring. ... It actually triggers a higher reproductive growth."

Year-round hunting for deer would be "very, very attractive" to farmers in New York, Williams said.

The proposal from Crouch, a Republican, would require farmers to get permits from the state Department of Environmental Conservation to shoot deer on their land out of season. Unlike the state's current "nuisance" deer program, which requires farmers to show local DEC agents crop damage caused by deer before they can get special permits, farmers would find special hunting privileges "readily accessible," Crouch said.

Farmers could shoot deer themselves or let hunters on their property.

A current effort to thin New York's deer herd allows farmers to obtain permits to let extra deer be killed on their land during the regular hunting season.

Before the last deer hunting season in New York, the DEC estimated the state's deer herd at more than 1 million animals. About a quarter of that number were killed during hunting season, which lasts for roughly five weeks each fall.

Whatever the exact number of deer, farmers believe the herd is getting larger. Cornell said 55 percent of farmers surveyed said there are more deer now than five years ago. Twenty percent said deer were doing $5,000 or more in damage to their crops every year.

Currently, a farmer or hunter killing a doe out of season face up to a year in prison and a fine of up to $2,000 or up to 15 days in jail and a maximum $250 fine for killing a buck.

Markarian's group favors non-hunting means of keeping deer away from crops, such as the use of fencing, repellants and having farmers work with local Cooperative Extension agents on other methods.

"It's not an easy issue and it's one of the more complex wildlife issues today," Markarian said.
 
There is a huge problem in New York with deer populations, does by the handful. I think it is a great idea and a great way to start manageing our deer herd... I never thought politics would go to this extent.9 outta 10 farms have gone under in the last 20 years do to crop damage and milk prices... Its about time they start reducing doe populations...
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i agree with alaskan. i feel that it should be done also. they talk about having a higher reproduction rate, which is true but they can almost eliminate that if they play there cards right! before deer season rolls around this fall, if they can kill somewhere around 225,000-275,000 or a little more out of season, and then say they kill 100,000-150,000 during season they will have the herd at a very controllable size! here in ohio before this past hunting season rolled a round there was an estimated 681,000 deer in the state, to me that's a hell of a lot of deer but it's about the perfect size herd. anyways i got a couple questions! are the deer allowed to be hunted at night, because here in ohio as long as you have the correct permit(as far as crop/farm damage) you can spotlight them if you wish. also are they going to allow non-res to participate in the out of season hunt? the only disadvantage of doing this out of season hunt, i just feel you are going to see a lot of deer killed and nothing being done with it but just leaving it lay! if NY needs help i'm their!
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Year around hunting already exists in PA for farmers. It's called "red tag" hunting. Farmers request them from the PA Game Commission and can issue the tags to anyone who asks. It's arguable on how it affects the overall deer population. PA estimates a deer pop over 1 million. Hunting harvests are around 500,000 per year, not including red tag hunting, natural predation, and deer/vehicle collisions. And still many feel the population is out of control, while others say the pop is not near what game commission states. Who knows?
 
If indeed we are following in the foot steps of Pa. and other states, antler restrictions must be next. woohoo
 
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