Couple Bucks

[Elitebowhunter]

Some of you may remember the drop tine buck I posted on here a few weeks ago. Just checked the trail cam again this evening and got two new bucks on it. Or I think they are both new. Do you think they are both mature? The tight racked buck seems like he has a lot of mass but that could be just the velvet. The other buck the tine that is pointing down. Is it actually like that or is that because of the velvet coming off?
Seems to have a number of points (12) hard to tell just from the one picture.

 

[dedgeez]

First buck looks good man. Wonder if he'll break that point off when he starts rubbing?

 

[JakeWym]

Love that hook! Pretty cool pic ya got there.