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I've had CIR switch do similar things and then when it dries up in late Sept/early Oct it will stiffen up a little and stand a bit taller.

Wanted to follow up on this. Used a no till drill to drill brassicas through these beans and it worked good to great. Areas with heavier growth of brassicas seem to be the tire tracks that flattened beans better. Photos from Aug 31 of brassicas planted Aug 2. Going to be a lot of food out there...

I've broadcast NWSG/forbs by lightly wetting down some oats (appropriate rate for given area) and then mixing the NWSG mix with them. The fluffies stick to the oats and broadcast well that way. I wonder if the same could be done and then put in a drill box? I don't see why not, just have to be...

Yes wheat will over winter better than oats. You can run into a problem with too many cereals surviving until the next year. Oats, IMO offer premier attraction for 45 days post planting AND they are gone in the spring when the rye, peas, and clovers fill in. Double benefit. YMMV

Keep in mind, you get nitrogen "credit" from your organic matter in your soil as well. I've seen estimates of about 20-25# of nitrogen per 1% OM. Having healthy soil and rotating crops that fix nitrogen can be cost beneficial to your wallet and is better in the long run than dumping endless...

Looks like your rye may struggle according to that Michigan planting guide and 6 months on alfalfa, while not clover (somewhat similar) is at 6 months.

The bigger the seed, the more energy it has to push through that initial thatch layer and find sunlight. That being said, if you want brassicas you still have time to till and replant. Should have some stored nitrogen in the soil from the terminated clover too.

We used small seed box setting 45 to get us about 6.5#/ac last week on a 606NT if that helps. You could also calibrate your drill by following the manual (highly recommended).

The plot pictured was drilled with beans the first week of June, then laid over a heavy mat of rye and hairy vetch and sprayed. 15" rows appears to be canopied or nearly canopied. I was considering drilling brassicas into this field, but between the thatch and the beans I'm not sure how...

Oct 2. Fun contest

What have you guys been seeing for plant back time when using me-too-lachlor on beans? Considering going with a lighter rate in hopes of shortening it up a bit. Soil is silt loam.

The spraying is/was commonly done with the herbicide Rodeo which is aquatic safe version of a broad spectrum herbicide.

The DNR in Illinois has been pushing this as an approved practice for over a decade. Here is one study that came up in a Google search...

I was quoted ~$1,000 for 30 acres this upcoming fall. Very cost effective if you get the results that @Rut Nut had.

Here is how I get my clover and alfalfa plots established in spring. Broadcast oats at 50#/acre rate. Disk or till oats into soil. Cultipack. Broadcast clover/alfalfa. You can cultipack again if rain isn't imminent (within 24 hours) but I prefer to let rain push the seed into the cultipacked...

For those who have drone sprayed BH, what specific time frame would I be looking at. SW WI would be the location, so basically same zone as NE Iowa, right across the river. I'm aware it would be in the fall, and from personal observations, I'd guess the first week of November, but I don't want...

I've been working for the past few years on some buckthorn control in one of my woodlots. It is gratifying work and I know it needs to be done, it is very labor intensive and costly. In the short term the deer have vacated this portion of the property. Some of that is probably from my intrusion...

Image of the field to give an idea how much residue is there.

Maybe I used the wrong term, it was harvested with a combine, there is plenty of residue. Total ground coverage. ETA - I did use the wrong term, this field was "cut" not "chopped".

It's going into a 10 year CRP rotation, I don’t think much of that black residue will be around the next time this dirt gets row cropped.