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10 reasons why I only use one stand all year

Hardcorehunter

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I use the Lone Wolf Alpha Hangon and a set of 6 Lone Wolf climbing sticks and it is the is the only way to go IMO. You can use whatever you want for steps and a stand, but one set of steps and your favorite hangon stand is all you need. Here is why:

1. It's Quick. My Lone Wolf sticks and stand go in and out with me each time I go to the woods. The Lone Wolf hangon and sticks go up quickly and quietly with a little practice. From the time the stand leaves my back to the time I am sitting in my stand is approx 15 minutes.

2. My stuff can't get stolen. I read stolen stand and step posts nonstop on AT and other forums; whether private property or not, it is going to happen.

3. Safety: My equipment isn't getting ruined by squirrels, the sun, and weather; by not being out in the elements when I am not there. By using my equipment daily and setting it up and taking it down each hunt, I am aware of any safety issues with it.

4. The deer can't pattern me due to being lazy and overhunting a stand location too much. Too many guys get off work and go to the same stand or two day in and day out and wonder why they don't see deer. The deer are onto you.

5. It allows me to fully learn the land I am hunting better and the time of day etc. that deer move through certain areas of the land. By being a mobile hunter, I am always on the move and observing deer movements and their patterns.

6. Shooting lanes are unneccessary once the leaves are off IMO so I do no shooting lane pruning; this saves me work and stinking up the woods with human scent and unnatural trimmed branches that can alert a deer of hunter activity. For me there is no arguement of needing stands placed early for shooting lanes cut. I can always place my stand a little high, low, to the right or to the left of where I expect my shot to come from. There is always a way to make a tree work without a bunch of pruning. I carry a little set of pruners just for immediate branches that may cause drawing of my bow issues.

7. I am NEVER faced with hunting a stand location that the wind is not in my favor. I take my stand and place it where the wind is in my favor for the hunt; I don't have to settle for a so so unfavorable wind.

8. I can hunt any tree I want with my setup. The problem I found with my climber treestand experiences is that I hunted where the trees worked for my climbing treestand, instead of where I wanted to hunt. Climbers are too tree specific.

9. I am not out busting my butt lugging stands out in the fall and placing them and then lugging them all back in the winter or spring after season.

10. I don't have a bunch of stands that are not necessary and I can spend my saved $$ on beer.

I should point out that this type of hunting takes practice to get good at it. After a season of 90-100 days in the field and hunting this way; it is easy fro me.
 
Yea, sure there are. Lots of elk and deer hunters set in treestands and let the game come to them. Here is a recent post made here on IA whitetail showing scenery. The Gila national forest area is even more rugged from what I hear. I have been through only the northern part of the state(Raton) and the mountains have huge trees just like Colorado. We have seen big bulls and huge herds of elk up there.

http://iowawhitetail.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=255217#Post255217

Here are some images I googled up of NM. They look as tall as IA trees

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I have the sticks and stand (Lone Wolf) but it's still much more of a pain to hang and pull with every hunt plus all the noise, over heating and stuff to carry in. If you don't mind the extra time, don't make noise, have good shooting lanes and don't find in a pain in the butt- I can see the up sides. I like having my permanents ready to go BUT like the Lone Wolf option when I have to. Good points above though.
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Only one problem. Some of us old guys and or handicapped, or like me, with a back like china, cannot be scampering around a tree like a squirrel. I need a good sturdy ladder to climb, and when I get up there, a secure platform, with a rail around it before I set down. Guess you agile, fit, guys will have to shoot all the trophies.
 
I think alot of it is has to do with what type of ground you hunt. For me it is public ground and lots of it, so Id rather be versatile and have one set up versus multiple stands that would most likely get hunted out of or stolen.

Now if I owned my own ground, I would never hunt this way. I would have multiple hang ons all over the place. Most likely gorilla or rivers edge. Why make it harder on yourself if you don't have to?

I get bored only hunting one or two tracts, so I like to roam it all, that is why lonewolf fits my hunting style.
 
ive had problems getting my sticks carried in quietly on the back of my treestand. how do you get yours set for quiet entry and easy load and unload? do you have some pics?
 
I would say Scott I.C has the best method with a bracket that holds the sticks to the stand, it is about as quiet as you can get. I haven't had a problem when using my badlands 2200. I stack two sticks on top of eachother and place one in each batwing. Then I hook the stand on it and cinch it tight. It doesn't make any noise either.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LIV4RUT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think alot of it is has to do with what type of ground you hunt. For me it is public ground and lots of it, so Id rather be versatile and have one set up versus multiple stands that would most likely get hunted out of or stolen.

Now if I owned my own ground, I would never hunt this way. I would have multiple hang ons all over the place. Most likely gorilla or rivers edge. Why make it harder on yourself if you don't have to?

I get bored only hunting one or two tracts, so I like to roam it all, that is why lonewolf fits my hunting style. </div></div>

The LoneWolfs are great for jumping around, and setting up in areas you can't leave your stands in, but I'd rather walk to my tree and climb up without having to set anything up in the morning or afternoon. I carry enough crap up into the tree with me without having to drag my stand and sticks along. With that being said, I own two sets of stands and sticks......they have their place, but I'd never use them for every hunt.
 
I love the Lone Wolf system, and you do make some valid points HCH.

But, I'll be real honest, I hate packing in a stand and sticks when I'm ready to hunt...hate it.

I like to slip in and slip out with my bow in hand and a small fanny pack.

I know a lot of guys do it, but I would hate setting up in the dark some morning.

I'm all about bouncing around...that's what 15 stands are for! /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

It is much different when you hunt the same property year in and year out...certain locations are good every year once you learn the land.
 
It must be a getting old thing, because my dad hates it too...... /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
The lonewolf is a great stand...but you do need a fair amount of practice. No stand that I would rather hunt out of.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LIV4RUT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would say Scott I.C has the best method with a bracket that holds the sticks to the stand, it is about as quiet as you can get. I haven't had a problem when using my badlands 2200. I stack two sticks on top of eachother and place one in each batwing. Then I hook the stand on it and cinch it tight. It doesn't make any noise either. </div></div> I just use one of the stick straps, I hook it to the button on the top stick (when stacked on top of the stand) and just loop it through the bottom of the stand twice and hook the other end to the button and cinch it tight, no noise at all. I also use a couple cheap gun slings for straps to carry the stand.
 
I just moved from IA and a typical year of bowhunting would consisit of 90-100 days in a stand. Lots of doe tags plus trophy hunting = lots of time in a stand. This type of mobile hunting is only for people in good physical condition. It will take some practice and getting your own technique for doing this quickly, quietly, and safely. By the time you have done this 25-30 times, it is a breeze. I actually enjoy putting my stand up each time and it is not a dreaded chore for me. I always use a linesmans belt. I only hunted private property and could have had the lands saturated with stands. I hunted 3 different properties. The only other alternative method I considered is to have about 10 ladder stands for every 30 acre timber I hunted. At $80 a pop for each stand and that is $2400 for enough ladder stands for 3 properties. I then need padlocks and cables for each of the stands and this brings the cost to an additional $450. Roughly $3,000 to really do it right. I would then still bring in my hangon and at least one climbing stick so that I could get additional height as 16' is too low for me. The ladder stands are a lot of work to get out to the woods, but they don't need brought in each year and make a nice safe way to get into the stand. They are also heavy and thieves are not so likely to steal them. I still stand by my statement that a climber is too tree specific and will not work on the variety of trees that my setup will. They do have their place though.

Here is a bare stick and stand with 6 steps and here is a loaded with extra gear setup.

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After 25 years of bowhunting,I have one season under my belt with this type of mobile hunting and these are my pics from this type of hunting. Here are the pics of my year as a mobile hunter.

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Deer/turkey double taken from the same stand minutes apart.

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My buck

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My wifes' deer with the same type of hunting method same season
 
If I had the option of carrying in my Lone Wolf or sitting in a hang-on/ladder stand I would probably choose the latter everytime. Like Ghost said, I feel better just walking in with a bow and my pack. Plus, it seems it doesn't matter what the temp is, I end up sweating my butt off putting up my Lone Wolf and then stay chilled the rest of the day. Much less chance of making noise climbing into a permanent stand that putting up your stand.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Full Quiver</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I end up sweating my butt off putting up my Lone Wolf and then stay chilled the rest of the day.</div></div> That used to be me til I stripped to bare minimum and then carry my warm stuff to the stand under my net.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Full Quiver</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Much less chance of making noise climbing into a permanent stand that putting up your stand. </div></div>I agree. I hunted 3 different properties. The only other alternative method I considered is to have about 10 ladder stands for every 30 acre timber I hunted. At $80 a pop for each stand and that is $2400 for enough ladder stands for 3 properties. I then need padlocks and cables for each of the stands and this brings the cost to an additional $450. Roughly $3,000 to really do it right.
 
To each his own I suppose.

learn to hunt and kill monster bucks from the ground with a bow.
much more rewarding,
much cheaper,
will make you alot better hunter,
but its not for everyone, it does multiply the difficulty of every thing by alot.
 
90 to 100 days in the stand per year?

Wow.....you are a Hardcore Hunter!!! /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
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