Well Iowa1, I'll tell you exactly where it comes from. It comes from experience. I measure a few hundred head evey year and see another FEW THOUSAND measured each year as well. Working 10-15 deer shows a year will get you that expeirience. Been doing this for over 15 years. In all this time I have NEVER seen a deer that grossed over 220. This icludes ND, SD, MO, IA, KS, Wis, Ill, and Minn. You ever seen the Breenbuck? How about the Bills buck? I'm pretty sure they both gross less then 220ty In fact, there are only a couple whitetails that do gross 220 or better. Collora, Damery and an Alberta buck are the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head. This deer is not even close to them in size. When you get the measuring expirience that I have then you can question me. Questioning my arrogance isn't even one of your options.., do you know me? Easy to hid behind a computer to knock a person and act like a big brave man.