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Really surprised with the feedback on the 350 Legend. My kids have killed 8 deer with our Winchester 350 Legend. Dropped almost every single one in their tracks. Only a couple have even made it 50 yards. One made it almost 100.

Might be because I've got the kids aiming directly at the "point" of the shoulder. Meaning dead center of the shoulder and a couple inches high. Knockdown power doesn't happen by shooting them through the lungs. I'm always baffled at folks aiming double lung with a gun.

What ammo are you using??
 
Really surprised with the feedback on the 350 Legend. My kids have killed 8 deer with our Winchester 350 Legend. Dropped almost every single one in their tracks. Only a couple have even made it 50 yards. One made it almost 100.

Might be because I've got the kids aiming directly at the "point" of the shoulder. Meaning dead center of the shoulder and a couple inches high. Knockdown power doesn't happen by shooting them through the lungs. I'm always baffled at folks aiming double lung with a gun.
I believe that is known as the "Game Warden shot"...because it drops them in their tracks and usually eliminates tracking...or so I have heard. :)

But seriously, that is my aim point too when using a firearm. I too have noticed a tendency for skimpy blood trails with my muzzleloader, FWIW. But I don't recall ever losing a deer that I shot with it. I have only used my .350 to shoot 3 or 4 deer and I really don't recall the blood trails, as I just walked over to where I saw them drop. So I don't know on that.

But I totally agree with not purposing to double lung them with a gun. Get the shock value of a bullet working for you by impacting the skeletal structure.
 
But I totally agree with not purposing to double lung them with a gun. Get the shock value of a bullet working for you by impacting the skeletal structure.
Seems like bullet selection/options might be a factor as well. Not sure what they are offering in the Legend ammo.

With the ML, I stopped shooting 250 grain Hornady SST's as they were explosive, fragged hard. Great if you are lunging them, not so good with bones. The other side of the coin was 300 grain XTP's that showed minimal expansion. Settled on 250 grain XTP's. All in .450, though.
 

Winchester Deer Season XP .350 Legend 150 Grain​


I haven't noticed a lack of blood because we've only blood trailed one. The others either dropped or we watched them plow 50 yards. My kids aren't high-level marksmen either so it's not because they're top-talent. All shots have been close too so I'm sure that makes a big difference. Not sure any of the kills have been over 100 yard shots.
 
Seems like bullet selection/options might be a factor as well. Not sure what they are offering in the Legend ammo.
Looked at the offerings in 350 Legend and saw FMJ. Why and for what I have no idea.

Lots of jacketed soft point, which wouldn't be my choice unless aiming at shoulder.

Would opt for Hornady FTX (replaced the SST line?) or Barnes Triple-Shock. Might cost a little more but can't justify going cheap on ammo.
 

Winchester Deer Season XP .350 Legend 150 Grain​


I haven't noticed a lack of blood because we've only blood trailed one. The others either dropped or we watched them plow 50 yards. My kids aren't high-level marksmen either so it's not because they're top-talent. All shots have been close too so I'm sure that makes a big difference. Not sure any of the kills have been over 100 yard shots.
I always had good luck with the 150 grain XP’s. My switch to barnes was more mental than out of necessity. 150’s through the vitals completely messed up everything internally. I always had lots of fragmentation and recovered very little of the original bullet. Small pieces everywhere. Definitely did it’s job and wrecked the vitals. I got worried about lack of pass through shots and always wondered about hitting heavy bone and switched to barnes since I like all other barnes bullets. Have always had exit wounds with barnes now even on quartering shots that went through front shoulder and exited the opposite hip a few times. No doubt the 150’s absolutely destroyed the vitals on every deer i’ve seen shot with them tho. Also, got worried about the plastic tips breaking off since i’ve had that happen a few times. Probably not an issue in a bolt gun. Overall the 150xp always worked great tho
 
I love the accuracy of the .350 Legend (Winchester). I’ve shot 2 deer with it and the 160 gain bullet hit exactly where you want !

That being said I missed a buck in 24 but that was not the guns fault. With a good rest and inside 130 yards I feel very comfortable about the .350.

It’s fun to shoot when there’s such low kick …
 
My first thought is 400 Legend. I like lever guns and see the potential of the 360 Buckhammer over the 350 Legend. My daughter’s first deer & with a 350 Legend AR and she even built the handloads. No blood, zero, perfect shot & honestly thought she lost it for about 20 very anxious minutes.
 

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I have owned both 350L and 450B and can not tell any difference in killing power between the two. Definitely had poor blood trails with the Hornady SST type bullets. Been using regular soft points in 180gr 350 and have had much better experience. I do prefer the 350 over the 450. Recoil is much less, much quieter, and equal killing power in m experience.
 
I know you said you want a bolt action rifle. If you and your wife have a very different length of pull, I would think pretty hard about an AR. Adjustable stock could make a significant difference for shootability for different sized shooters. Also the gas operating action will help with recoil.
There are stocks available for bolt actions to adjust length of pull.
 
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