I agree with both of you. My most productive stand here in PA is surrounded by a variety of oaks and within 100 yards of the biggest swamp (which is there bedding area) within a few miles. There are 3 of us coming to Iowa. My father, best friend, and I. So we will have a few sets of eyes to help learn as much about the public land we are going to be hunting as we can in the 9 days of hunting... Still no where near enough, but hopefully it will work. The last thing I want to do is walk in blind and boot deer all over the place.