Preemptively contemplating the responses was pretty easy, and accurate. Yes, I know what the 'intention' of CRP type programs is/are. What I 'witness' is something else. (In fact, I feel it's almost promoted here.)
As for landowners being sued for liability, I believe that only applies if they charge someone to access their land, (but I could be mistaken). And it is a great idea for landowners to allow public access to their hunting / fishing land, but this is on a voluntary basis, and these are few and far between.
I didn't have this view 20 - 30 years ago. My opinion evolved as big buck mania swept through the Midwest, causing the extreme shift away from easily obtained free access to private hunting / fishing property, to 'go pound sand'. Heartbreaking to say the least. I've personally fallen out of love with deer hunting for mainly this reason, where I had been a strong lifelong advocate.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
That is fine , but you’d lose at least half the acres in sign up. So it would end the program . A few non hunters might sign up, and some out west guys that have big open CRP farms .. they do sign up for walk in programs .
Iowa has a voluntary program such as this. There is not a reservation system though. I think it is called IHAP. There are some good pheasant properties in story county (Ames) under the program.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
I’m sorry I can’t stand some of this. Let’s just keep Iowa great. We have great regulations and mangement! Let’s just keep it that way! Turning Iowa into a one buck state is no different than any other hunting “participation trophy/ easy button” people would like handed out (crossbows, rifles, non res landowner tags etc.). It is the same story. I can’t shoot a big buck (old/mature, high scoring, etc.) because everybody else shoots all the young ones and all the neighbors are screwing up everything for me by doing deer drives and party hunting and whatever else I don’t personally like. We have it good! Let’s just be happy! There will be unintended consequences for all by trying to “improve” it for some.
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deerhunter93
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Just like the ISC poll - what is best for deer is likely not best for deer hunters and what is best for deer hunters is likely not best for deer.
1) Revert back to legal weapons from 10 years ago (no straight wall rifles, no smokeless muzzleloaders, no crossbows in the future)
2) Fully fund the DNR to allow them more time and resources for: acquire more public land, more COs/Rangers, more public and private lands biologists/techs, more habitat improvement on public lands - plots/prairie restoration/invasive species removal/FSI/ect.
1) Revert back to legal weapons from 10 years ago (no straight wall rifles, no smokeless muzzleloaders, no crossbows in the future)
2) Fully fund the DNR to allow them more time and resources for: acquire more public land, more COs/Rangers, more public and private lands biologists/techs, more habitat improvement on public lands - plots/prairie restoration/invasive species removal/FSI/ect.
These are winning proposals
JNRBRONC
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately won’t happen with the Farm Bureau in bed with the politicians in DSM.
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Matthewfox_45
Well-Known Member
There’s a guy from near Boone. He’s put in a ton of CRP and a few restored wetlands….its a gorgeous property! I stopped a few years ago and asked for permission to hunt. I was granted permission….for $50 a gun per day. Something about that didn’t sit right with me, I never went back.
JNRBRONC
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CurtisWalker
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I thought if they were getting CRP payments they can’t make money off the ground including leasing.
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If it’s low enough and cash, who is going to report it? But no- you can’t make money off it. I have crp and timber reserve. I can’t make a dime and actually was told I’m not supposed to let my chickens out there to “graze” because I sell the eggs (make money) and they made that comment multiple times that you can’t make money
YtailFreak
Active Member
-1 Buck, floating tag.
-End Party(tag sharing) hunting for all.
-Must own a minimum of 20 acres to qualify for a Landowners tag (if we kept the LO tags)
-Get rid of 1 of the 2 "shotgun" seasons. Gun 1+2+Muzzy season = over a month long. Waayy too long.
-Ditch the ditch hunting rules. For pheasants too. Zero sport in killing one from the road.
-2 Two Week long spring turkey seasons, rather than our current set-up of 4
-Only 1 Turkey tag per hunter. Not near as many turkeys as there should be in this state.
Anything to get our age class back and prevent liberal laws getting passed making hunting easier than it already is. We'll always have deer, but I fear we won't always have quality deer. We're on the back end of the bell curve.
-End Party(tag sharing) hunting for all.
-Must own a minimum of 20 acres to qualify for a Landowners tag (if we kept the LO tags)
-Get rid of 1 of the 2 "shotgun" seasons. Gun 1+2+Muzzy season = over a month long. Waayy too long.
-Ditch the ditch hunting rules. For pheasants too. Zero sport in killing one from the road.
-2 Two Week long spring turkey seasons, rather than our current set-up of 4
-Only 1 Turkey tag per hunter. Not near as many turkeys as there should be in this state.
Anything to get our age class back and prevent liberal laws getting passed making hunting easier than it already is. We'll always have deer, but I fear we won't always have quality deer. We're on the back end of the bell curve.
CottonwoodCanyon
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In order of importance, in my opinion-
-ensure the forest reserve stays intact/as is, plus increased incentivize habitat conservation practices
-ensure crossbows for able-bodied stay out of the archery season forever
-blackpowder only for early and late muzzy, no magnified scopes (iron sights or 1x), no more rifle cartridges period (straight wall, extended/late season antlerless BS, etc.)
-decrease firearm seasons length
-minimum 40 acres for landowner qualifications, and ensure NRLO never changes for buck tags, but option for NRLO decreased/resident pricing for antlerless
-remove all party hunting/shared tags
I'm conflicted on the 1 buck floating tag. I see merits of keeping the tag system as is, and potential harm in a floating buck tag for any resident.
-ensure the forest reserve stays intact/as is, plus increased incentivize habitat conservation practices
-ensure crossbows for able-bodied stay out of the archery season forever
-blackpowder only for early and late muzzy, no magnified scopes (iron sights or 1x), no more rifle cartridges period (straight wall, extended/late season antlerless BS, etc.)
-decrease firearm seasons length
-minimum 40 acres for landowner qualifications, and ensure NRLO never changes for buck tags, but option for NRLO decreased/resident pricing for antlerless
-remove all party hunting/shared tags
I'm conflicted on the 1 buck floating tag. I see merits of keeping the tag system as is, and potential harm in a floating buck tag for any resident.
So basically, i should take up archery in your utopia.
YtailFreak
Active Member
No sir, but our gun seasons are open from the beginning of Dec to Jan 10. Thats 35+ days. Add in any ridiculous shed buck rifle season afterwards and we're closer to 45+ days. Straight walls, custom smokeless, and then centerfires. It's amazing some of these deer make it to 5 yrs old anymore.
I'd rather see 1 5 day gun season with a more primitive style muzzleloader season to follow. But I'm on team deer, not team hunter.
I'd rather see 1 5 day gun season with a more primitive style muzzleloader season to follow. But I'm on team deer, not team hunter.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
The majority of gun hunters have to choose between one of the 5,9 or 20ish day gun seasons. All bowhunters get 80+ days to hunt. I don’t really think we want to start the argument on who gets a better crack at them.
One of best statements I’ve read!!!!
Team hunter has gotten infinite wishes the last 30+ years!!!! Longer seasons. NEW weapons. Way way way way more technology!!!! Able to shoot further with every weapon class. Huge advancements to every weapon. Increased tags allowed. On & on…..
As fellow hunters- have we all been a part of this? Yep!!!! Totally admit it.
what have the DEER/resource had to their advantage??? Not much…. Some farms better managed. Some worse. Age class has suffered in last 10 years big time!!!! #’s down. They really haven’t had a whole lot swung in their favor.
Is the resource & hunting: about ME ME ME or far more than that??? That’s the fundamental ? Anyone can ask & should ask. Are we going the right direction for what hunting will be for the next generations?
Clearly, anyone knows the mindset that I wish more folks took on hunters considering what’s best for the resource.
Team deer & team “future hunter” need the pendulum to swing the other direction.