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BOWDUDE

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I have bow hunted for a while now and have decided to give up shotgun hunting. I want to try blackpowder. I will be hunting late season, and can't decide on a rifle.
I am on a budget but don't want to buy a lemon. I have narrowed my choices down, but wandered if you guys had some input?
CVA Firebolt 209 Ultramag nickle plated/ camo version
Knight 50cal disc stainless version

The Knight costs about $200 more. For as much as I will be using it, I can't see that much more for the money.

If anyone has any input or can tell me what makes the knight worth the extra money please let me know.
Thanks,
BOWDUDE
 
Not sure if they have any left but scheeles had 50 cal. black comp with ss barrell Knight bighorn for $199. I don't think you will beat that for the price.
 
Bowdude, Im not bashing CVA but Ive even had guys that work on guns for a living tell me this.The parts they put in the CVAs are of poor quality, the springs are weak, the hammers are bad, and it was my experience from owning one their customer service sucked.In my opinion they dont care about the quality of their guns they are just out to make a buck.If I offended any CVA owners Im sorry but the thing about their parts being poor quality is the truth, the rest was just my experience with them.Id spend the extra $$ and get a knight which is what I wound up doing just a year after I bought my last CVA.
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Hey bowdude. I have hunted with a muzzleloader for 12 years now and have enjoyed every minute of it. I started out with a T/C Newenglander, a traditional side lock gun. This gun was always accurate but I had lots of miss fires, and of course they were almost always at the worst time. I know several people with similar guns and had lots of advice on how to fix this problem and I tried everything. After a miss fire on a 160 plus buck I finally broke down and bought a Knight Disc. It has NEVER miss fired. I mounted a scope on it and under the right conditions I am confident about shot placement at 200 yards. I was in Alaska 2 years ago and struggled through a straight week of rain before I shot the gun and it went off perfectly. Even though there are other inlines out there for a little less money if I were you I would spend the extra bucks and get a quality gun. I think this is one of those (you get what you pay for) things. Just my opinion though. Good luck on what ever you buy.............shoot straight
 
I bought my son a CVA inline, don't know the model but it was cheap, 5 years ago. It still is a tack driver and has never missfired. He dropped a big doe in her tracks 2 years ago at 150 yards with open sights so I know it shoots! I've been shooting these frontstuffers for 30 + years and I must say there is some junk out there. I just don't think CVA is one of them. My personel preferance is Pedersoli rifles. Good shooters and more traditional. Good luck and keep yer powder dry!
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BOWDUDE,
In reference to your question "what makes the Knight worth the extra $200?" I think there are two clear answers. First, the quality and craftsmanship of the barrel. Second is the trigger mechanism. Remember...a muzzleloader is like a snowblower: even though you may not use it alot, when you do you sure want it to perform
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Buy the Knight...you'll never regret it.

P.S. Also...the stainless steel option is one you don't want to be without.
 
Shovelbuck, i got a pedersoli I have been trying to find a nipple for.So far cabellas has sold me two and neither of them was right.Any ideas who carries parts for them or what size threads they take?Thanks
Horst
 
Bowdude, I would highly recommend the Knight Disc rifle. My wife shoots this gun also and has not missed in 3 attempts. I would also suggest that you go online and check out natchezshootingsupplies.com. Their prices are better than any that I have seen. Remember also, that even though it seems like a lot of money it is a gun that you can have for a long time with the proper care. Good luck.
 
horst,

6 x 75 works in my double rifle from Pedersoli.

Do a seach for Mountain State Muzzleloading, sorry I dont have the phone number in front of me they are in WV and are a candy store for all things front stuffer.

HBH
 
It's much easier to shoot a rifle with a crisp trigger the breaks like a glass rod than an hard pulling, full of creap, gritty, cheaply made trigger. I tried a CVA 209 trigger the other day. I quickly eliminated it from my list of inlines to consider. Look at the T/C Omega! Its 28" barrel and totally cool action made it a top dog! T/C's just plain shoot. Good triggers. But remember a rifle is only as good as its scope! So plan on another $200.00 min. for a low power compact variable (1.5x-5x or 2x-7x) Also make sure that the NUT BEHIND THE TRIGGER IS'NT LOOSE!
 
Well, I went and looked at the CVA and decided the Knight Disc is in my future. The Knight seems to be a much better rifle.
 
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