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Rackaddict

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Hate to bring it up again but check this out. Looks like Headgear is not alone!
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I was going to stay away from this topic but just couldn't resist.
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It is my belief that this instrument would create more confusion instead of helping with the distance. And here is why: Yes the distance from your stand is greater then the distance from the bottom of the tree to your target, but the gravitational effect on your arrow is greater shooting horizontal then it would be shooting at a downward angle since some of the arrows energy is actually working with gravity. So if the target is 25 yards away from you sitting in the tree stand and you have a 25 yard pin that was sighted in at 25 yards while shooting from the ground, wouldn't your shot be off somewhat?
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Now think about that one for awhile.
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If only I had stayed awake during that physics lecture.
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I would like to be alone. Thanks Rack, the wounds were about to heal and then
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you had to go and do this. I am starting to develop a twitch.
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Popcorn does sound good if only I new what angle to cook it at...
 
buckinrut,
I believe that the gravitional force on the arrow is the same no mater what angle you are shooting. I say this because in physics equations the force of gravity is always a constant.
Please correct me if im wrong.

Im sure headgear will correct me, he is the expert on this matter.
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Yep, gravity is gravity! Same pull on an object regardless if it's traveling with it or against it.

Man are we a bunch of nerds or what?
I'm gonna go take some excedrin.
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Pupster
 
Okay lets do a practical experiment. Someone with a tree stand still set up put a target 20 or 25 yards away from the tree and shoot from the ground. Then climb into your stand and shoot aiming the same way you did from the ground and see were you hit. My prediction is you will hit close to the same spot.

Hows that Vman.
 
I'll predict you'll hit consistently slightly higher from your tree stand shot, although not by much.
For some reason when I shoot in my backyard from my stand I always hit slightly higher than from the base of the tree.

I was bored so I thought I'd respond.
I just want today over with so I can get ready to go turkey hunting Monday!
Have a good weekend!
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Limb,
I'm packing it! I am slightly cheating though as a friend is playing backup with a 12ga in the event of a poorly struck or completely missed gobbler.
Sorry we got a little
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Pupster
 
I totally agree with the gravity is a constant and is consistent thing, but it's effect on your arrow is the greatest when it is horizontal. If you are aiming down gravity will not effect your arrow the same as if you are shooting flat. It never pulls any different but it does have different effects other wise your arrow would hit lower from the tree stand than the ground because once you climb into the stand you are actually farther away from the target than you were when you were on the ground.

Pupster, your right, we do sound like nerds. I don't think I understand the gravity of this subject.
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Okay so in the tree I'm actually 62.6' away from a 20yd target if I'm in a 18' high treestand. You're right it should hit lower, but it usually doesn't, for me anyway!?!?!? Anyone else hit high or have to aim slightly low from an elevated position?

It has something to do with trajectory and drag force, as gravity is always constant. Maybe I'm onto a new law of relativity. Maybe I should just go home and get my things ready for Monday.
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How high would I have to aim if I'm shooting straight down?

I'm glad you guys are here to entertain me today as this day feels like all week!
I need more Excedrin!!
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Pupster
 
looks like when I get some time next week Ill have to get the physics book out. Im 99% sure that when dealing with gravity you only deal with the horizontal length.
And I told the PHD Id never use physics again.
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You know there is no hunting season going on when we are discussing physics on this site. Turkey season can not come soon enough. I agree with you vman, gravity may be a constant but it is only consistent on the horizontal axis to the ground. So even though the distance is greater from the stand the gravitational effect is the same as it is from the bottom of the tree. This is why you will hit the target a little high if you add the extra distance.
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I do have a Bushnell yardage pro bow on my old bow and will be testing this theory out after turkey season.
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The older I get the more I realize how smart my old man is; he always said physics has a role in everything you do. Would have never guessed hunting would be one of them.
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