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1st: Location, you can't shoot a mature buck where mature bucks don't live

2nd: Time, the people I know who consistently harvest big bucks but don't have their own land put in the time it takes to be in a position to succeed.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Its tough to see, let alone shoot mature bucks if you don't have property where people let them grow up. </div></div>

I can't agree more. I'm not sure what the possibilites are in the area that I hunt...I'm biased and would like to think that growning a 200 incher is possible...but it will not happen until the surrounding landowners/hunters try to manage for it.

I say location is important, but I don't say it to mean any specific part of the state. I think there are a wide variety of areas in this state that are capable of growing several monster bucks, the key to location is having adjoining tracts of land that operate on the same management program. Every year this is harder to come by in my area because the land is being sub-divided rather quickly. 15 years ago there were about 8 landowners in the area that I hunt. Today there are just shy of 20. That tends to make quite a difference...especially when you consider that houses now sit in the old-day big buck bedding areas.

Besides location, it's habitat. They probably go hand and hand, really. If you watch any of the big name DVD's those guys bust their butts planting this and that, putting up tree stands, cutting trees, etc etc. They manipulate the land to create that paradise area for a large buck to inhabit.

The main ingredient in all of this, is flat-out passion. It's not likely that you'll be rewarded if you not willing to put in some time and effort. Some guys do it all year long, which is why they are consistently successful.

One thing to remember is that it eventually snowballs, but it requires patience. One big storm (twister, flood, drought) can ruin years of effort quickly...but you have to be persistent. This effort and persistance is what generally separates consistent success from luck, IMO.

I really don't think money has much to do with it.
 
Awsome post. I know alot of what I know about whitetails and hunting them was learned at the school of hard knocks. You have to have a true passion for whitetails. And understand the mature buck is a different animal all together.If not careful they pattern you quicker that you figure them out. Paying attention to details is another biggie.It was said earler dont talk about do it.One last thing is when you surround yourself with good friends that share the same passion as you do ,dont get no better to me.I said it before best money I have ever spent bar none. Thanks to everyone for the sharing of knowledge with all on this site. I learn somehing new everytime. Ill let everone know the BIG SECRET TO KILLING BIG BUCKS EVERY YEAR.Here it is find a tree that you know they will pass by and be there before they are!!!!!!!! /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
Im going to go with passing deer, It takes a lot of gut to pass a 150, but if your passing a 150...........its for a reason!
You'll never shoot a booner though if you dont pass 150's
 
1.Time-most people have families and jobs

2. Patience-it's not like these big deer are everywhere

3. Maturity- you have to learn to let the 150's and 160's walk if you want them to get any bigger. Remember if you don't give them a chance when you see them it doesn't matter what your adjoining landowners are doing.

4.Location-you need some type of minimum pressure on these deer to keep them around long enough for them to feel comfortable. Bump them enough and they will move to less pressured areas.

5. Scouting-know what is running around before you go sit in your stand

6.A Little Luck- After you have put all these things together, it still comes down to a 20 yard area if you are using a bow. There are so many things beyond our control when we are out hunting that can ruin a perfectly planned hunt.
 
I would say the most important factor is time to hunt. All of the guys I know that seem to score annually have one thing in common and that would be jobs that allow them the time to hunt multiple days in a row during the rut. Unfortunately as a teacher I do not have that luxury. I have to make the limited days I have to hunt count. If the wind is wrong on these days I may not be able to even hunt my best areas during prime time. Even inexperienced or poor hunters who put in the time in decent area are bound to have opportunities at mature deer.
In addition to time the next most important factor is location. However, is you have the drive to be successful you will find a suitable location. Hear in MN good public land exists if you are willing to walk or can hunt during the middle of the week. Also, you can still get permission from quite a few landowners to hunt.
 
I believe those that are consistently successful on bigger than average deer are all 110% hunters.. Everything they do all year long, is a bit more than most of us.. They scout a bit more, they plan a bit more, they prepare a bit more and they probably stay on stand a bit longer than most of us. They have their key areas and once the hunt is on, they only go there when they plan to kill a big buck and know the situation is right. And yes they do put more time in the woods, more days, more hours. Me I have slid down to the 90% hunter, and my trophy wall shows it. (Haven't put much up there lately although I always have at least one op, that I manage to screw up or at least not be able to put it together at "Crunch" time.. Sorry,, I ain,t passin no 150's,, Not without giving them a try.
 
So Wayne - what say YOU ???????? In my book your results have fit the "consistent" phrase pretty well. Where's Floppy ?? He seems to get it done all the time also.
 
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