30 yards and in for me. I could probably do 40 but prefer not to. anytime you get out to that range and beyond, more variables come into play that could cause you to miss your target and wound an animal. Aside from that, one of the reasons I bow hunt is to get close to the animal. Nothing matches the rush of a big buck walking 20 yards or closer to your stand. I think a lot of guys let their egos get the best of them and take unethical shots they probably shouldn't take. There is a big difference hitting a inanimate object from 60 yards on the ground, all ranged out with unlimited time to make the shot vs. hitting a deer at 60 yards with your adrenalin pumping 100mph. My rule is if i'm not 100% at a particular distance when I practice, then i shouldn't be taking that shot while hunting.