Old Buck,eastern red cedar and caven rock switchgrass an old bucks best friend!me and vman planted 1500 cedars last year and they seem to be doing good.on the direct seeding end i just frost seeded about a mile along the mudroad that borders my place.the key with cedar seeds is that you must break the seed coat, they must be soaked in hot tap water for six hours.nature does this through a birds digestion system that is why you will see cedar in the middle of now where without any other cedars around.after scarification the seed should be cold stratified for 90 days.it is kind of like frost seeding switchgrass.cedar is fairly easy to establish just take a drive through southern iowa.i just prodcast the seed by hand and will keep this area mowed for the first year.i order my seeds from sheffields seed company and get the nebraska strain,these are a little hardier then the minnesota strain.they are about 80$ a pound with 80000 seeds per pound.my next plan is for instacover this is where you go thru the timber and fall timber in about a 1/2 acre chunk then bring in about 30 to 40 4ft. to 5ft. cedars and place them in the deadfalls.i just cant wait to try out the new tree spade, i just hope vman has his chain saw sharpened?i will stop by your booth at the classic and we will talk some more. seeya Tim