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PEOPLE LISTEN UP! It is not OPEC or the oil companies that are screwing us on gas prices, it is ENVIRONMENTAL WACKOS.

Supply and demand dictates gas prices. Gasoline consumption and gone way up in the last 20 years, but we are unable to build new oil refineries because of 10 years worth of law suits by all the nut jobs out there. Our refineries are running at 100% output and can't keep up with demand.

A year ago gas was at $3.00+ a gallon and oil was $75 a barrel. Now we are at $3.00 a gallon with $60 barrel prices. The price of crude is only a part of the problem. I don't remember anyone crying for the oil companies 15 years ago when crude was $10 a barrel and oil companies were going belly-up right and left.

Corn will not save us. More efficient cars will not save us. A BIG stick upside a few lefty skulls might.

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Very poorly worded... screwing the environment will surely screw us all. Weening ourselves off fossil fuels from the Middle East will save us... we have technology to build Hydrogen powered vehicles, but no one is developing that... because the huge oil companies would lose profits. I agree, Corn will not save us, Hybrids will help to slow the bleeding and ease some of the pain, but alternative, renewable energy is the only viable solution in the long run... that or "Beam me up Scotty" transporter technology
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Both correct above! It isn't a one way street.

As for Hybrids, the price needs to come down a bit before I take the plunge. That and I just made the last payment on my gas gussler this month.
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PEOPLE LISTEN UP! It is not OPEC or the oil companies that are screwing us on gas prices, it is ENVIRONMENTAL WACKOS.

Supply and demand dictates gas prices. Gasoline consumption and gone way up in the last 20 years, but we are unable to build new oil refineries because of 10 years worth of law suits by all the nut jobs out there. Our refineries are running at 100% output and can't keep up with demand.

A year ago gas was at $3.00+ a gallon and oil was $75 a barrel. Now we are at $3.00 a gallon with $60 barrel prices. The price of crude is only a part of the problem. I don't remember anyone crying for the oil companies 15 years ago when crude was $10 a barrel and oil companies were going belly-up right and left.

Corn will not save us. More efficient cars will not save us. A BIG stick upside a few lefty skulls might.


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Very poorly worded... screwing the environment will surely screw us all. Weening ourselves off fossil fuels from the Middle East will save us... we have technology to build Hydrogen powered vehicles, but no one is developing that... because the huge oil companies would lose profits. I agree, Corn will not save us, Hybrids will help to slow the bleeding and ease some of the pain, but alternative, renewable energy is the only viable solution in the long run... that or "Beam me up Scotty" transporter technology


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I never said I wanted to screw the environment. I said left wing nut jobs in D.C. and elsewhere will not allow oil companies to drill for oil or build new refineries to keep up with demand for gasoline and that is the main reason for high gas prices.

Capitalism is a beautiful thing. When and if hyrogen becomes economically profitable, big oil will not be able to stop it from becoming reality. That is the way our country operates. In the mean time, I agree with you that we need to figure out how to lessen our need for gasoline in the short term. Look how far electric cars have come in the past 10 years. Now that the technology has made it more affordable, capitalists are investing in R&D and there are folks in California with modified Prius's boasting 200+ MPG.
 
Capitalism is a great thing, except that the current system exploits it. Executive salaries and bonuses are all designed around short term stock prices. Execs don't have any interest in developing new technologies, regardless of whether or not they could be HUGELY profitable 10 years from now, because they want the HUGE paycheck NOW.

Take a look historically at executive salaries in the US, and executive salaries the world over. It's INSANE. Enron is a great example of corporate greed in America. Unfortunately Capitalism in this regard is spreading like a disease.

Basically I'm arguing that left alone, the market is far too shortsighted, meaning that it only seeks immediate gains/rewards, which is why we have laws in place to curtail otherwise self destructive behaviors. Unfortunately we have hundreds of governments the world over, that can't agree on what's in everyone's best interest. Which is why, for example, there are reports of our seas and oceans being severely over fished, depleting a resource because there either is no ownership or regulation to prevent business from doing so... Now if they would "sell" or "lease" a section of the ocean to a corporation, they would likely see that it is in their best interest to actually maintain the resource for the future.
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My son has a baseball tourney in KC this weekend.Put $80.00 in gas in the wife van yesterday,between that and cost of hotel room I need to get a loan from the bank.
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