hillrunner
PMA Member
Maybe I'll sell out and buy that Wyoming ranch I've been dreaming about....
HF 60 NR tag allocation for outfitters
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Fishbonker
Life Member
This bill is once again on the full committee agenda. The meeting was set yesterday for today at 1300. This bill has been on the agenda several times but hasn't been called for any discussion/vote.
Link to public comments: Comment here
Link to watch it live click here: Live meeting link
Link to public comments: Comment here
Link to watch it live click here: Live meeting link
Windlooker
Well-Known Member
Looks like the committee recommends passage?! Oh boy.
Fishbonker
Life Member
The committee recommended amendment and do pass11-8 with 2 absent.
We won't know the amendment, if there is indeed one, until it is published.
We won't know the amendment, if there is indeed one, until it is published.
IsThisHeaven?
Active Member
Who should we be contacting on HF 60 now that it is out of subcommittee? Anyone other than our own individual legislators?
ElkFever2
Member
I emailed D - Breckenridge (he is my rep, and also sat on the subcommittee), to see what his vote and position was, and if there are any good reasons to support this bill. With the subcommittee voting 2-0 it appears that one member abstained, but I didn't want to just assume it was him since the other two were Republicans.
Wes Breckenridge emailed me back and said he voted no in committee and would be voting no on the floor.....
This is all of the house members.
ako.abdul-samad@legis.iowa.gov
marti.anderson@legis.iowa.gov
eddie.andrews@legis.iowa.gov
rob.bacon@legis.iowa.gov
terry.baxter@legis.iowa.gov
liz.bennett@legis.iowa.gov
michael.bergan@legis.iowa.gov
brian.best@legis.iowa.gov
jane.bloomingdale@legis.iowa.gov
brooke.boden@legis.iowa.gov
christina.bohannan@legis.iowa.gov
jacob.bossman@legis.iowa.gov
steven.bradley@legis.iowa.gov
wes.breckenridge@legis.iowa.gov
holly.brink@legis.iowa.gov
timi.brown-powers@legis.iowa.gov
dennis.bush@legis.iowa.gov
sue.cahill@legis.iowa.gov
mark.cisneros@legis.iowa.gov
dennis.cohoon@legis.iowa.gov
dave.deyoe@legis.iowa.gov
cecil.dolecheck@legis.iowa.gov
molly.donahue@legis.iowa.gov
tracy.ehlert@legis.iowa.gov
dean.fisher@legis.iowa.gov
john.forbes@legis.iowa.gov
joel.fry@legis.iowa.gov
ruthann.gaines@legis.iowa.gov
thomas.gerhold@legis.iowa.gov
eric.gjerde@legis.iowa.gov
garrett.gobble@legis.iowa.gov
martin.graber@legis.iowa.gov
pat.grassley@legis.iowa.gov
stan.gustafson@legis.iowa.gov
chris.hall@legis.iowa.gov
steve.hansen@legis.iowa.gov
lee.hein@legis.iowa.gov
dustin.hite@legis.iowa.gov
steven.holt@legis.iowa.gov
bruce.hunter@legis.iowa.gov
chad.ingels@legis.iowa.gov
charles.isenhart@legis.iowa.gov
jon.jacobsen@legis.iowa.gov
david.jacoby@legis.iowa.gov
lindsay.james@legis.iowa.gov
tom.jeneary@legis.iowa.gov
megan.jones@legis.iowa.gov
kenan.judge@legis.iowa.gov
bobby.kaufmann@legis.iowa.gov
david.kerr@legis.iowa.gov
jarad.klein@legis.iowa.gov
jennifer.konfrst@legis.iowa.gov
bob.kressig@legis.iowa.gov
monica.kurth@legis.iowa.gov
john.landon@legis.iowa.gov
shannon.latham@legis.iowa.gov
brian.lohse@legis.iowa.gov
shannon.lundgren@legis.iowa.gov
mary.mascher@legis.iowa.gov
dave.maxwell@legis.iowa.gov
charlie.mcclintock@legis.iowa.gov
charlie.mcconkey@legis.iowa.gov
ann.meyer@legis.iowa.gov
brian.meyer@legis.iowa.gov
joe.mitchell@legis.iowa.gov
gary.mohr@legis.iowa.gov
norlin.mommsen@legis.iowa.gov
tom.moore@legis.iowa.gov
amy.nielsen@legis.iowa.gov
carter.nordman@legis.iowa.gov
jo.oldson@legis.iowa.gov
rick.olson@legis.iowa.gov
anne.osmundson@legis.iowa.gov
ross.paustian@legis.iowa.gov
todd.prichard@legis.iowa.gov
kirsten.running-marquardt@legis.iowa.gov
sandy.salmon@legis.iowa.gov
mike.sexton@legis.iowa.gov
jeff.shipley@legis.iowa.gov
david.sieck@legis.iowa.gov
brent.siegrist@legis.iowa.gov
ras.smith@legis.iowa.gov
ray.sorensen@legis.iowa.gov
art.staed@legis.iowa.gov
sharon.steckman@legis.iowa.gov
henry.stone@legis.iowa.gov
kristin.sunde@legis.iowa.gov
phyllis.thede@legis.iowa.gov
phil.thompson@legis.iowa.gov
jon.thorup@legis.iowa.gov
beth.wessel-kroeschell@legis.iowa.gov
cherielynn.westrich@legis.iowa.gov
skyler.wheeler@legis.iowa.gov
ross.wilburn@legis.iowa.gov
dave.williams@legis.iowa.gov
john.wills@legis.iowa.gov
cindy.winckler@legis.iowa.gov
matt.windschitl@legis.iowa.gov
mary.wolfe@legis.iowa.gov
gary.worthan@legis.iowa.gov
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
This reminds me of Bitcoin, I don't understand it! So what if you say you are hunting with an outfitter, how would they know the difference? Who checks on this? Confusing
ElkFever2
Member
Spoke with Breckenridge today. The amendment was to more narrowly define “outfitter” such that eligibility for getting one of the 500 set-aside tags is restricted to actual outfitters rather than just anyone who sets up a shell company LLC.
Fishbonker
Life Member
This bill has a new number and language that defines what an outfitter is.
Link to the revised bill: HF 806
In my opinion it does take away the ability for a NR to self guide unless they were registered as an outfitter prior to July of 2020.
The bill also gives legitimacy to outfitters by recognizing them as a business and once that happens they will continue to demand an increase in NR tags.
I had a very long conversation at the Classic with a gentleman whom I had contact with years ago but lost track of him over the years. He worked as a guide for outfitters in MO and IA. His opinion now was outfitters only care about the bottom line and conservation and customer service goes out the window. He was very concerned about how much land these outfitters have leased and have control over. His opinion was Iowa needs regulations to control them. I respect his opinion and it deserves consideration. I think that once they have recognition we will not be able to control them.
The other part of this is, as the bill is currently written, the out fitter must be registered as an outfitter prior to July 2020 but that could change as well.
Link to the revised bill: HF 806
In my opinion it does take away the ability for a NR to self guide unless they were registered as an outfitter prior to July of 2020.
The bill also gives legitimacy to outfitters by recognizing them as a business and once that happens they will continue to demand an increase in NR tags.
I had a very long conversation at the Classic with a gentleman whom I had contact with years ago but lost track of him over the years. He worked as a guide for outfitters in MO and IA. His opinion now was outfitters only care about the bottom line and conservation and customer service goes out the window. He was very concerned about how much land these outfitters have leased and have control over. His opinion was Iowa needs regulations to control them. I respect his opinion and it deserves consideration. I think that once they have recognition we will not be able to control them.
The other part of this is, as the bill is currently written, the out fitter must be registered as an outfitter prior to July 2020 but that could change as well.
One response I received (gives you a little insight into who is pushing this)
Dear Rob—
SarahP here, Rep Bohannan’s legislative clerk. We’re in an urban district, so this isn’t something she sees a lot, but I know she’d be fully supportive of your stand on this. Personally, as I used to live on a timber acreage, I know how many hunters knocked on my door every year asking permission to hunt on my land (we allowed one bowhunter, one muzzle loader, and a shotgun hunter who was teaching his daughter to hunt). And those hunting tags shouldn’t be any harder to get. Anyway, this is a Republican proposed and led bill, and those are the people you should check in with. Specifically, you could email the representative who is running this bill, Representative Charlie McClintock. You can reach him at Charlie.mcclintock@legis.iowa.gov. And check in with your own House Rep as well. You can look them up here:
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislators/find
They need to hear from you on this.
Good luck!
SarahP
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SarahP here, Rep Bohannan’s legislative clerk. We’re in an urban district, so this isn’t something she sees a lot, but I know she’d be fully supportive of your stand on this. Personally, as I used to live on a timber acreage, I know how many hunters knocked on my door every year asking permission to hunt on my land (we allowed one bowhunter, one muzzle loader, and a shotgun hunter who was teaching his daughter to hunt). And those hunting tags shouldn’t be any harder to get. Anyway, this is a Republican proposed and led bill, and those are the people you should check in with. Specifically, you could email the representative who is running this bill, Representative Charlie McClintock. You can reach him at Charlie.mcclintock@legis.iowa.gov. And check in with your own House Rep as well. You can look them up here:
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislators/find
They need to hear from you on this.
Good luck!
SarahP
Emails sent! I have friends who like to come hunt from out of state and they are already having to wait 4 and now 5 yrs to draw a bow tag. Taking 500 more tags away from the existing pool is ludicrous. All the outfitters I know care little about conservation, herd management, and are only in it for the money. Such a joke!
Big8s1992
Member
I sent my opposition to this to all 100 house member emails and also received two responses so far pointing out that Charlie McClintock (Charlie.mcclintock@legis.iowa.gov) in district 95 is running this bill.
At minimum, it’d be great if we could keep emails going out to our own house reps voicing our concerns to this with McClintock included or copied.
I can’t speak to all outfitters, but I don’t see many of them shooting does and keeping our great deer herd balanced and healthy on all the ground they are gobbling up control over from residents. We need to get loud on this one and hold the line.
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At minimum, it’d be great if we could keep emails going out to our own house reps voicing our concerns to this with McClintock included or copied.
I can’t speak to all outfitters, but I don’t see many of them shooting does and keeping our great deer herd balanced and healthy on all the ground they are gobbling up control over from residents. We need to get loud on this one and hold the line.
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IsThisHeaven?
Active Member
I sent emails to my rep and McClintock as well.
hillrunner
PMA Member
I've been trading respectful emails back and forth with Terry Baxter on this and other outdoor issues. I believe he he has good intentions but he is not with us on this one. In fact, I don't think anyone with an R by their name has responded in agreement with me.