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Operation Popeye (1967-1972): The US Air Force conducted a highly classified weather modification program, "Operation Popeye," during the Vietnam War. Other programs existed as well.

The operation was declassified and unveiled, leading to the 1977 Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD), which banned the use of weather modification as a weapon of war

Why do you think they send c 130s into the eyes of storms. They’re doing more than measuring wind speed. Of course the G will tell you it’s an attempt to help you. lol. Ie diminish hurricanes etc. There are other reasons.
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Please enlighten us all on why they send C130s (hurricane hunters) into the eye of the storm. With sources of course.

As with most classified operations, information warfare is at the forefront and so is when "declassification" occurs. Easily to redact documents these days or retype a document on a typewriter for the old school days.

As many are aware...items on smart phones are algorithmes to align with beliefs and easily spoofed by A I. to make one believe they are accurate in their beliefs.

Only people that really know the truth, are the people doing the mission because even post mission items are omitted in the "best" interest of the narrative.
 
And Reuters is a TERRIBLE source for news... especially since owned by Canada. Surface level maybe...but really not now with level of tension between the 2 defense agencies
 
My post was prompted by your assertion that weather manipulation was ridiculous. Operation Popeye is widely known. Do your own research. You’ll find multiple stories about it.

You can start with Office of the Historian, which is within the US State Department.

That was 55 years ago. Who knows where tech has taken it today.
 
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That's the ironic part...I spend hours looking at clouds or through them..and never have I been afforded the opportunity to make them go away...
My point... operations can be named one thing..watch what the left hand is doing why the right hand is something different. And information is only as good as the source it comes from. Just because it is in a state department or historical site does not make it factual

And since operation Popeye has to do with cloud seeding...the science behind that is different than creating clouds. Way off topic than creating and dissolving clouds. Several countries do it to this day.

I'm very aware we aren't told everything. And get your point. Fortunately there are some that can view the whole story. But just can't tell.

Better stuff for our elected officials to worry about than someone putting molecules into a cloud to make it rain or snow.
 
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https://geoengineeringwatch.org/us-...d-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/ First off, if you haven't watched this video in it's entirety, I am actually going to BEG you to. If you care about your family, yourself, wildlife, land, water, air, etc, you will watch this COMPLETE video. After watching you decide if it's conspiracy or not.

Secondly, whether you believe this or not please support HF 927, an Iowa bill banning spraying over this state. Also, I am a strong supporter and friend of both the IBA and ISC and I am strongly asking both groups to support this bill. It came out of committee with 100% support from Republicans, with one democrat opposed. These lawmakers need to hear from both groups on other issues besides the key deer hunting bills. If this were a bill on increasing NR deer tags their phones would be going crazy!! All good, but with both groups along with this forum there are tons of great things that could be accomplished. We are very lucky and blessed to have both groups and leadership in our state but, hopefully we can expand a bit to other KEY issues.

Last, I do want to thank the people for not attacking me on this forum personally. Definitely shows class! Attacking the message if you want, is fair game. Believe me, I have been called names that I had to look up to see what they even meant, on other social media! None good! I've been very blessed to live on this earth and enjoy GODS beauty for 73 years and my fear is our children and grandkids won't have the same opportunity, with the direction we are headed. In the meantime, I ask you to look up and at the very least pay attention!
 
What makes America great! May have disagreement but most people respect others viewpoints.

Are you worried about other aerial spraying or just modified weather. And from my time around the world... just because America stops doesn't mean others won't. Saving the climate isn't an only America problem...it creates problems in America. With so many regulations that ties our hand it's unbelievable.
 
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What makes America great! May have disagreement but most people respect others viewpoints.

Are you worried about other aerial spraying or just modified weather. And from my time around the world... just because America stops doesn't mean others won't. Saving the climate isn't an only America problem...it creates problems in America. With so many regulations that ties our hand it's unbelievable.
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Well, welcome back! From looking at your posts I believe, we may agree on far more than we disagree. Definitely fear both aerial spraying and weather modification. Spraying us almost daily with tons of aluminum along with other metals more than likely, nothing good will happen. Heck the climate freaks, are on course, in their mind to save the planet even though they will kill everything on it! We might agree on that!!! As far as weather modification what could go wrong with the government attempting to manipulate GOD'S creation.

I do have to give you a ton of credit for knowing, that aerial spraying and weather modification is going on in over 60 countries. It is also top secret and more than likely highly classified as you basically indicated in order to keep the population from knowing. Of course the lowlife media will not expose it either, because most are paid for staying away from it.

As for HF 927 on the Iowa floor to ban aerial spraying, it's a tiny start. If nothing else, it might make a few more people aware that it's happening. Most people do not want to believe it is going on, even though their eyes can see. Unfortunately, in the mean time a mans average age has gone from the low 80's to 76. At the rate we are going, it may be hard for the younger people on here to even see age 70....Only GOD knows! Time will tell! https://geoengineeringwatch.org/us-...d-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/
 
Thank you! Not sure I'm glad to be back after I thought I would be talking critter habitat and not cloud seeding but still learning regardless.

I'm not against any theory whether be tin hat or source based manipulation.

I do my research for sure as research is my job. If I get it wrong, it is literally a matter of life and death in most instances. And even when I get it right, it's a matter of life and death. Heavy burden either way because you know the outcome.

As for the secrecy...if you research countries from the middle-east, they are open about doing cloud seeding and about 20-30 percent of the time it is successful. UAE is the one that comes to mind.

There's a bit of things that affect the world we live in from concrete, to 80 CSR ground having houses built on it (mentioned on the site I see), etc. But as stated.. America is doing it's part but from what I have seen, the rest of the world isn't. Most of the countries are trying to survive or out industrialize the U.S. at the cost of excessive pollution.

But as stated, no one knows when their last heart beat will be ( unless of course you are being kept alive by a machine) so you have to do what you can while you are here to enjoy it and make it better than you found it. Too many people live in the me mentality or chase clicks and likes that don't matter one bit.
 
bwhnter4life said:
Thank you! Not sure I'm glad to be back after I thought I would be talking critter habitat and not cloud seeding but still learning regardless.

I'm not against any theory whether be tin hat or source based manipulation.

I do my research for sure as research is my job. If I get it wrong, it is literally a matter of life and death in most instances. And even when I get it right, it's a matter of life and death. Heavy burden either way because you know the outcome.

As for the secrecy...if you research countries from the middle-east, they are open about doing cloud seeding and about 20-30 percent of the time it is successful. UAE is the one that comes to mind.

There's a bit of things that affect the world we live in from concrete, to 80 CSR ground having houses built on it (mentioned on the site I see), etc. But as stated.. America is doing it's part but from what I have seen, the rest of the world isn't. Most of the countries are trying to survive or out industrialize the U.S. at the cost of excessive pollution.

But as stated, no one knows when their last heart beat will be ( unless of course you are being kept alive by a machine) so you have to do what you can while you are here to enjoy it and make it better than you found it. Too many people live in the me mentality or chase clicks and likes that don't matter one bit.
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Once again I agree with most and don't blame you for wanting to talk habitat. I have plenty of that too in my life! I really do not want to keep you from that, because it sounds like you need a break from lots!

As regards to what you call cloud seeding, did you see the beautiful blue sky this morning? Hopefully you did take a couple seconds to look up!!! My question is what clouds were they seeding? Please help me out when your schedule allows.

In the meantime please enjoy your farm and the critters that call it home!
 
trophybluf@borderlandnet. said:
Once again I agree with most and don't blame you for wanting to talk habitat. I have plenty of that too in my life! I really do not want to keep you from that, because it sounds like you need a break from lots!

As regards to what you call cloud seeding, did you see the beautiful blue sky this morning? Hopefully you did take a couple seconds to look up!!! My question is what clouds were they seeding? Please help me out when your schedule allows.

In the meantime please enjoy your farm and the critters that call it home!
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Plenty of time for habitat talk.

Cloud seeding is a weather modification technique that improves a cloud’s ability to produce rain or snow by introducing tiny ice nuclei into certain types of subfreezing clouds.

Im on one of the air highways from east to west and west to east and often look up. What I need to do is see what temp is at their altitude and notice a different between flight profiles. As a aircraft flys whatever altitude it creates friction. The difference between wing temp and air temp creates vapor. Best place to see this is at sea level along a coast with high humidity.
 
bwhnter4life said:
Plenty of time for habitat talk.

Cloud seeding is a weather modification technique that improves a cloud’s ability to produce rain or snow by introducing tiny ice nuclei into certain types of subfreezing clouds.

Im on one of the air highways from east to west and west to east and often look up. What I need to do is see what temp is at their altitude and notice a different between flight profiles. As a aircraft flys whatever altitude it creates friction. The difference between wing temp and air temp creates vapor. Best place to see this is at sea level along a coast with high humidity.
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Do you think the contrails you are seeing is from the friction and differences between wing temp and air temp?
 
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Do you think the contrails you are seeing is from the friction and differences between wing temp and air temp?
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Sort of...this is what I was trying to say. In summary that is...

The low pressure and temperature drop caused by airflow over wings (aerodynamic contrails) can, in combination with high humidity, lead to condensation and contrail formation.
 
bwhnter4life said:
Sort of...this is what I was trying to say. In summary that is...

The low pressure and temperature drop caused by airflow over wings (aerodynamic contrails) can, in combination with high humidity, lead to condensation and contrail formation.
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The contrails you see at high altitudes are from the engine exhaust. Certain atmospheric conditions make them more visible and last longer. At low altitudes and high humidities, you can get the vapor trails that come off the wings. The ones at low altitude are more prevalent during high lift situations like landing.
 
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"I’m from the government and I’m here to help."​

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Just a small follow-up! I give you credit for posting the video on the localized cloud seeding. I am a pilot, although those days have been over for quite sometime! All pilots get a ton of training in weather because it is vital to flying. So all pilots have a pretty good idea what goes on in our skies..... Localized cloud seeding has gone on for as long as I can remember. That's like over 50 years. Absolutely no threat to your health or the environment.

Yesterday morning we had a bright blue sky, with not a cloud in the sky, until it was almost totally covered with what some people want to call contrails. Obviously not cloud seeding because there was not a cloud in the sky. Contrails vary in length depending on various conditions in the atmosphere. Most all airline transport planes fly between 30,000 to 40,000 feet above sea level. Depending on their magnetic course they are required to fly at, either a even numbered or odd numbered thousands of feet. Back to contrails, there are only a couple thousand feet in separation between planes, so the atmospheric conditions change very little. Two planes flying in that same airspace would not have a contrail varying by very much. Contrails also evaporate very rapidly and ARE NOT capable of forming cloud or capable of forming an overcast sky. Not a chance and is laughable that the media and different search engines want you to believe this. Chemtrails form and expand into clouds, sometimes covering the complete sky. All part of weather modification programs over 60 plus countries..... I humbling ask you to watch what is going on in the sky everyday and you make up your own mind.

Please watch the podcast I will add below between RFK JR and Dane Wigington. That will answer the many questions you may have on chemtrails. MANY health issues related to them. After you watch the podcast and maybe the video " The Dimming " I look forward to your comments along with others. Please tell me who you think is being untruthful, our government or Dane Wigington. Remember the government I believe, has this highly classified because I am sure they think for THE GREATER GOOD! Mr Wigington has testified in front of congress and if not truthful the climate freaks would have already crucified him! Please watch and I look forward to your comments.
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/us-...d-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/
 
trophybluf@borderlandnet. said:
Just a small follow-up! I give you credit for posting the video on the localized cloud seeding. I am a pilot, although those days have been over for quite sometime! All pilots get a ton of training in weather because it is vital to flying. So all pilots have a pretty good idea what goes on in our skies..... Localized cloud seeding has gone on for as long as I can remember. That's like over 50 years. Absolutely no threat to your health or the environment.

Yesterday morning we had a bright blue sky, with not a cloud in the sky, until it was almost totally covered with what some people want to call contrails. Obviously not cloud seeding because there was not a cloud in the sky. Contrails vary in length depending on various conditions in the atmosphere. Most all airline transport planes fly between 30,000 to 40,000 feet above sea level. Depending on their magnetic course they are required to fly at, either a even numbered or odd numbered thousands of feet. Back to contrails, there are only a couple thousand feet in separation between planes, so the atmospheric conditions change very little. Two planes flying in that same airspace would not have a contrail varying by very much. Contrails also evaporate very rapidly and ARE NOT capable of forming cloud or capable of forming an overcast sky. Not a chance and is laughable that the media and different search engines want you to believe this. Chemtrails form and expand into clouds, sometimes covering the complete sky. All part of weather modification programs over 60 plus countries..... I humbling ask you to watch what is going on in the sky everyday and you make up your own mind.

Please watch the podcast I will add below between RFK JR and Dane Wigington. That will answer the many questions you may have on chemtrails. MANY health issues related to them. After you watch the podcast and maybe the video " The Dimming " I look forward to your comments along with others. Please tell me who you think is being untruthful, our government or Dane Wigington. Remember the government I believe, has this highly classified because I am sure they think for THE GREATER GOOD! Mr Wigington has testified in front of congress and if not truthful the climate freaks would have already crucified him! Please watch and I look forward to your comments.
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/us-...d-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/
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Thank you, I will listen to this podcast this week when I am on the road.
 
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