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Samuel, for being 59 years old language like I just cleaned up will not be tolerated. It's obvious you have some very strong opinions....that is fine, please stick to the subjects you are posting replies on.

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well it angers me that people will let there angers with anti gun folk affect how they look at a truly great gun-and merry christmas to u to
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: samuel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well actualy that is there name ar litealy stands for assult rifle and eugene stoner gave it that name.</div></div>

Hmmmm, and all this time I thought it stood for Automatic Rifle. Kinda like BAR. I suppose I could see calling it an assault rifle if it were still fully automatic and in the hands of one of our men and women in the armed forces.

The 'Bonker
 
its called that because the assult rifle had been out for several years before it was desighned and the ARs primary desighn was for heavy fully automatic fire-or in other words the assult rifle.the AK-47 kinda started out to be a assult rifle but not realy-it just gained the rep
 
A piece of history, the AR-15 was a civilian rifle BEFORE the military tested and adopted it as a replacement for the m-14. The AK was around for a long time befor ethe AR15/M16. Actaully the first "assault" rifle was the german STG44 at teh tail end of WWII, AK became widespread and adopted by teh soviets in 1949.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Flea</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A piece of history, the AR-15 was a civilian rifle BEFORE the military tested and adopted it as a replacement for the m-14. The AK was around for a long time befor ethe AR15/M16. Actaully the first "assault" rifle was the german STG44 at teh tail end of WWII, AK became widespread and adopted by teh soviets in 1949.</div></div>

I watched a thing on the Discovery or maybe the History Channel and as I recall the AR15/M16 was developed for the armed service but the entrenched thinking of the Pentagon was nothing smaller than a 30 cal. They set up a trial I belive it was in Alaska during the dead of winter. They set it up so the gun would fail. When the guy that invented/developed the gun protested he was escorted off the base. It was produced then for the civillian market. General Curtis Le May (SP) of the Air Force went to a forth of July picnic at the house of either the inventor or the manucatuer (Colt?) and was shown how well it killed watermellons. He ordered a few thousand on the spot for the Air Force.

It wasn't until Macnamara (SP) became Sec. of Defense and used cost containment to get all the services the same weapon (and boots) that the M16 became the weapon of all the branches of the service. It was also his cheapness that the guns were ordered with out cleaning kits leading to their constant jamming in the early days of Viet Nam.

So endeth the lesson, as I remember it and sometimes my rememberin ain't so good.

The 'Bonker
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nannyslayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does my red rider fit into this category? </div></div>

Only if it has a flash supressor and a bayonet lug.

The 'Bonker
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fishbonker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was also his cheapness that the guns were ordered with out cleaning kits leading to their constant jamming in the early days of Viet Nam.
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I believe that these early models had no forward assist either. That also caused a lot of early problems with jamming.
 
In the early days, that was one of the main dif. betwen teh M16 and the AR15, 16 had the forward assit, Ar15 did not. But this was back when I was in the military. Now 20 years later the FA is pretty much on standard on most of them. The bolt carrier is also a major dif. as the AR15 bolt carrier will not allow full auto even with the proper trigger parts.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: samuel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its called that because the assult rifle had been out for several years before it was desighned and the ARs primary desighn was for heavy fully automatic fire-or in other words the assult rifle.the AK-47 kinda started out to be a assult rifle but not realy-it just gained the rep </div></div>

Are you an educated man Sam? I was just wondering because your grammar and typing is a little "iffy"...
 
P.S. sorry for the hijack guys. One of my buds owns an AR and he uses it for coyotes while I use my A-bolt .270. He can hit a dime at 200 yards with his AR which I believe to be pretty good. I need to have a coyote 150 yards or closer before I feel comfortable taking a shot.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bukslayr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Please dont call them assault rifles.

They are rifles and I use an AR for Praiie Dogs.

"Assualt rifles" is the term used by anti-gun owners.

Thanks </div></div>

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I too don’t much care for the name/words "assault rifle" either.

I have a SKS that I brought back from Vietnam; and since then I have modified it some.

It now has a Choate Dragunov Stock with a military BDC scope on it. I have several 30 round clips and a 75 round drum magazine. I prefer to call my SKS my “Neighbor Hood Watch Program”. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

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I was at the range today- gun will shoot way better than I can hold it. On a solid table and rest it will shoot 1" all day- doesn't even seem partial to any brand of ammo.
 
There was a lot of jamming that occured due to someone ordering a ball powder instead of extruded with out longevity testing. I think the move was cost related and it turned out the ball powder was very dirty burning.

They can be a very rewarding rifle especially if you reload. They will REALLY shoot when you find a combination they like. Love em!
 
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