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IBA Opposes Extended Bow Season

Your only human Randy. Keep fighting the good fight. I think this comment explains it best. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> How hypocritical would it have been for me to make a case not to extend any season and then ask to extend the archery season. </div></div>
 
I am behind you 100% Randy. IMO you made the right call, by human nature, no one wants to ever give up anything. You will never make everyone happy no matter what you do.
 
I can't believe that IBA would do that!!! I mean geez all they have done is fought for us to have the best bowhunting in the country.


DC if your such a proclaimed bowhunter then you would understand just how fortunate we really are to have the IBA!!! You sit here and complain about 3 freakin days that you dont get when you had 2 months to hunt DURING THE RUT. Its obvious to me that your intentions are only for your own benefit and self satisfaction. We are VERY, VERY fortunate that we have a association that continously fights for the future of YOUR hunting whether you like to admit it or not. We are one of very FEW states that dont have a gun season during the rut and have a 2 month first season.

I'm sitting on 5 tags for bow season. 1-anysex and 4 doe tags. I'm hopefully going to fill a few of those during the regular late season but if I dont then I sure in the hell wont complain about 3 extra days when I had 86 to get them filled.


If anyone needs to remove thier head outta any orfice ya might want to start the movement by yanking yours outta your ass and realizing how good we actually have it.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Limb Chicken</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can also use your bow with a late muzzy tag, correct? </div></div>

Correct!
 
Anyone can ignore the facts but that does not change them.

I will assure everyone that my communications with the DNR had a measurable impact on any extension of the late muzzleloader season (and I lobbied for the extended bow season also). In fact, I would have prefered that they pull the seasons forward instead of tacking it on the end. I initially opposed the extended shotgun season but offered compromising solutions to the DNR. I have accepted and will support the DNR's decision.

What I do not support is the stance that the IBA took on the issue of the extended seasons in light of their mission statement.

Those of you who twist and turn reality and add comments that are not even related to the topic embarrass me as a member of the hunting community. Feel free to voice your opinion, as I did. That is what the 'forum' is for. I did not start this thread to start an argument. I started it so everyone knows what the IBA's stance was on this issue and I will make no apology for being honest. Thank you to those of you who can respond sociably, regardless of what your opinion is on the topic or issue.
 
Just out of curiosity DC, is it really the fact that you can't hunt three extra days this year, or is it the fact that you can't sell three more days of hunting to clients?? Not trying to push your buttons here, but when I see "outfitter/guide" listed in your bio. it raises a red flag with me.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CRITRGITR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just out of curiosity DC, is it really the fact that you can't hunt three extra days this year, or is it the fact that you can't sell three more days of hunting to clients?? Not trying to push your buttons here, but when I see "outfitter/guide" listed in your bio. it raises a red flag with me.

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Or the fact the IBA wants to maintain the cap on non-resident licenses which might hurt an outfitter/guide?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gundog870</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
But I think its good the IBA opposed it because that just shows the stance that there should not be any extra seasons and it is fine the way the seasons are. </div></div>

This is exactly what I've been thinking.

DC,
Have you considered this possibility? Sometimes it's better to stand for what you truly believe in even if it means not getting in on a last minute, fabricated "perk" that is nothing shy of an effort to shut everybody up. If you go back and read the posts about the 3 day shotgun extention during the days leading up to the decision, you'll see that the vast majority was opposed to the idea for multiple reasons. I think the IBA simply decided to stand strong in an effort to show it won't be a part of this 11th hour jockying of seasons and dates to satisfy the legislature. Seems a noble stance to me. Once you start giving in to changes you don't believe are worthy, you've become a part of the problem. I think it's also likely that it will become more commonplace if everybody is willing to get in for their little share of the pie. Just my thoughts.
 
I'd be willing to bet DC wouldn't even hunt those 3 days if they were tacked on. Some people bitch just to bitch I guess. I think we have great bow hunting here in Iowa and the IBA does what's in the best interest for all, not just a couple whinners.
Those who think the world owes them everything are usually to lazy to collect.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me add just a quick note to my earlier post. How hypocritical would it have been for me to make a case not to extend any season and then ask to extend the archery season.If the extended season isn't a good idea then it isn't a good idea for anyone.</div></div>

Randy I agree 100% with your above post.

I guess what I don't agree with is if we are trying to harvest more deer then a few more would be harvested during this time so what would it hurt? Muzzy is already open 3 days later.
I for one do not understand why the season closes on a week day anyway.

I like a few I know have not harvested our deer with a bow yet and I do not know if I will but I will keep trying until the end of the season. I will be out there until the bitter end though whether it is harvesting does or if the big boy comes along.

To those of you who have harvested your deer congrats to those of us who have not harvested ours the season is not long enough.

I have heard good things about the IBA and I know Randy you will do what you believe to be in our best interest. I will follow because I believe you have our best interests at heart.
 
I should probably update my profile (when I have time). I do not outfit or guide hunts anymore as I no longer need additional funds to do what I love to do. Guiding a few hunters a year for a few years got me by until I could afford to support my dream and my passion on my own (hunting giant whitetails). I would have never done it if I believed it would have had a detrimental effect on my personal and/or Iowa hunting opportunities. If that makes me a bad person or you believe it is a disgrace to the hunting community, I can live with it because I know what I have done - without you or the IBA - to promote and create great hunting opportunities for not only myself but a large portion of the hunting community. I don't boast about my personal hunting accomplishments and I don't post pics of my harvests. But honestly, it really does not matter. I'm a member of the 'hunting community' because - sometimes unfortunatly - no one can deny admission to that group.

Show me an outfitter or former outfitter, hunting celebrity, or anyone else in the public eye that is willing to get on here and state facts and voice their opinion. They don't, because too many of you would bash them instead of trying to understand their point of view and converse with them.

I'm not on here a lot because my employment resposibilities are very demanding and my limited persoanl time is spent doing what I love to do - not talking about it. When I do post, I take it very seriously because something has or will affect me and I believe that complete honesty and integrity are critical in any public posting as well as anything else I do in this life.

I have spent way to much time answering posts on this topic and will not reply again - regardless of what responses are posted going forward. Enjoy your hunts and good luck!
 
Detrimental to the hunting community???? WHAT??? 3 whole days of BOWHUNTING is detrimental to the hunting community. I think that if anything that IBA helped the hunting community by not asking for the extension due to the higher risk of shed bucks being harvested!!!!!!

How can you come on here and bash something that a majority of the people on here are part of and then not expect to catch a rash of crap???? I think that it is great that you are a dedicated hunter and sportsmen like you claim, thats great I wish everyone was, but how in the world can you honestly expect the IBA to go into the meeting to oppose the extended season and then ask for a longer season?? That would be part of the problem and not the solution. I'm not a area rep or anything but a normal member but I feel that we are represented very well for what we have. Hunters from other states are envious because of our rules and regualtions and here you are bashing the one organization that actually does make a diffrence. Like I stated before, its the selfishness that you are showing that erks me the most.
 
I wanted to clarify after talking with Willie regarding the meeting ... and he explained Randy/IBA did not support or deny the opportunity for the extension yet there were two other bowhunters that strongly dissaproved which was the determining factor for bowhunters not recieving the extension.

Randy please correct me if I'm incorrect on this.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me add just a quick note to my earlier post. How hypocritical would it have been for me to make a case not to extend any season and then ask to extend the archery season.If the extended season isn't a good idea then it isn't a good idea for anyone. </div></div>

I agree 100%. Although I still have an either sex LOT bow tag, I'd rather skip the extra 3 days and support the position that we are tired of all the changes to the seasons. I appreciate the efforts of Randy and the IBA.
 
you know this whole season thing is giving me a headache. I am a bowhunter at heart, I also hunt late muzz. Ok, the DNR with all the wisdom decided to let gun hunters try and fill the left over gun tags. Why is everyone getting all bent out of shape? why did late muzz need to get an extra three days? and in those extra days they can kill an antlered deer? but the gun hunters have to kill doe for those three days. And NOW bow hunters want the same extension also? what about early season muzz hunters, they should get three days also. Where do they draw the line? I think the IBA did the right thing, my .02
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Show me an outfitter or former outfitter, hunting celebrity, or anyone else in the public eye that is willing to get on here and state facts and voice their opinion. They don't, because too many of you would bash them instead of trying to understand their point of view and converse with them.
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From what I've noticed, anyone coming here with good facts and a non confrontational attitude usually seems to get a good conversation around here.
How about some real facts next time and not wasting our time with this crap. Just an unfounded shot at the Pres.



On a side note...thanks for attending the meeting Randy.
 
How bought this, go to the southern 2 tiers of counties in Iowa and you can get a extra 2 weeks of bow hunting if you want /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Cha Ching...... Post of the thread.... Problem solved! :0

P.S. Dont forget your tag /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Sorry had to add some humor to this such serious thread.
 
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