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Iowa Deer Study Committee

Fishbonker

Life Member
The Committee met again today. The depredation program took up the morning session. The conclusions of the committee were that it is a good program but needs more funding. The DNR currently has 5 wildlife depredation program staff up from 2. The 3 new staff are on temporary loan from other DNR departments and these temporary staff need to have their FTEs turned over to the depredation program. The committee also suggested an increase in the HUSH program with funding from others sources than hunter licenses. They also suggested an increase in producer awareness through small meetings and literature. The committee suggested a website list of the producers with depredation tags and hunters willing to kill does so hunters and producers can get together. Some method needs to be established to determine where deer sanctuaries are.

Some of the things I learned today about the program. 60-65% of depredation farms are next to a sanctuary, either private or pubic meaning the producer losing crop have deer coming on their ground from either a park, refuge or public ground or a piece of private ground that is under hunted for what ever reason. Depredation tags that are reassigned from the producer to a hunter have a 60% success rate. Landowner depredation tags are different from the hunter depredation tags. The landowner tags are $2.00 each and hunter tags reassigned by producers are $12.00. The hunter does not need to purchase a $27.00 first doe tag, I can’t remember if they have to purchase an either sex tag. Tags are good for the season the hunter requests but good management dictates the producer try to spread out the hunters over all seasons. Shooting permits are different than depredation permits. There are 400 producers enrolled in the depredation program this year. The tags are good on land adjoining (public or private) the producers land as long as the hunter has permission. Depredation tags are on top of what ever the county quota is. A minimum of 5 tags are given to a producer and they are given in multiple of 5s. I don’t think anybody asked what the average number of tags given was. Ground that is leased for hunting is ineligible for depredation permits. The depredation specialists do not track this. They may ask the question but don’t follow up unless there is a reason to do so.

The early afternoon session was dedicated to car/deer collisions (CDCs). To me it looked like CDCs have leveled off in terms of miles driven, but the raw number of CDCs have gone up. Iowa is one of the cheapest States to have car insurance and one of the least expensive places to get your car fixed. There were 12 deaths last year from CDC’s and I think 10 of those were on motorcycles and I believe the vast majority were not wearing helmets. Through improved mapping of the accidents deer sanctuaries are starting to be identified.

Suggestions from the Committee include making sure all states are using the same data sets for ease of comparison. Limit distraction, lower speed limits in high CDC’s and have a CDC crash summit yearly.

The late afternoon session is where the wheels came off the bus. I am still pretty angry over what happened next. I don’t want to try to get into fine details but it is quite apparent to me that the committee chair wants an increase in NR tags to bolster his budget. There were votes taken and political maneuvering that quite frankly sickened me. I sat in disbelief when the meeting was over. I felt like I had been kicked in the nads. Here was a gentleman who was playing fast and loose with the truth, as I know it, and potentially doing irreparable harm to the State and the sport I so dearly love.

The only bright spot was Randy Taylor going toe to toe and not backing down from the onslaught. He was backed up by two other members of the committee whose names I don’t know, nor do I know whom they represent.

Another good thing was, as far as I, and perhaps the committee knows, nothing was decided today. What scares me is it looks like the committee chair holds sway over the facilitator and he may brush her aside at the next meeting.

The gallery isn’t allowed to comment and I hope my tongue is healed up before the December meeting from biting it all day today. I’m gonna wear my boots next time. It is gonna get deep.

Budget versus biology. Sad thing.

The ‘Bonker
 
Thanks for the update Bonker. NR tags will undoubtly go up, its going to happen, way to much money being waved in their face to not take it up. Sad that money has that much power.
 
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Thank you for the meeting update Tom.

And thanks to Randy for voicing the thoughts of the IBA and resident hunters.


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Thanks for the update Bonker. It would have been tough not to say anything. I think eventually the NR tags will go up. Especially when they are looking at the revenue side of it and not the biology behind it. Greed ruins everything.
 
This is horrible news. It makes me sick to think that some people are so narrow-minded to only see short-term benefits ($). So if you're not on the commitee, is there a chance to voice opinions after the meeting? When and where is the next meeting? I would like to go! The future of hunting here in Iowa is at risk.
 
Bonk,
Your keeping us up to speed on these things are much appreciated. Sounds like the chair has a bit of a my way or the highway mentality going on.
 
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Some of the committee members are elected. We can contact them and let them know how we feel.

One could also contact your state reps. If we pressure them some, they may be able to sway the committee?????????????

Looks like the IBA is about the only voice we hunters have at this time. I would suggest that everyone who enjoys deer hunting in Iowa join the IBA. The best way we can make a difference is by organizing and becoming proactive and contact committee members and state reps.

It's not all about those of us who hunt at this time. Many of us have or will have children and grandchildren. Do we want them to have a place to hunt?

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At the very least explain to your legislators how stacked the committee is and express your concern the Iowa hunting community is not getting a fair shake.

Our hunting is one of the things that makes it good to be an Iowan. If you want to loose that, just sit back and watch what happens. Just don't bitch when you have a slough of out of staters driving up and down your gravels and locking up your old haunts.
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Tom, thanks for taking the time to post this stuff!
 
How or where can we get a list of committee members and how to contact them? It would also be good to know what each individual's stance seems to be. I certainly would not have a problem contacting them and expressing myself, hopefully in a persuasive and respectful manner, and I know that there are others here just as or more capable of the same thing. Once again a big THANK YOU Bonker for taking your time to both attend and update all of us who care!!
 
I’ll try to answer some of your questions.

So if you're not on the committee, is there a chance to voice opinions after the meeting?
Yes, but most folks are up and gone as soon as it is over. I’m assuming you meant talk directly to individual members. During the meeting the members are working all most the entire meeting. Lunch is a working lunch.

When and where is the next meeting?
Next meeting is Dec. 9th at McFarland Park just north of Ames. 0900-1530.

Sounds like the chair has a bit of a my way or the highway mentality going on.
I don’t know Mr. Herring personally but it seems that way from what I’ve seen so far.

Some of the committee members are elected. We can contact them and let them know how we feel.
This is true, there are two Senators and two members of the House of Representatives on the committee. However, the rest of the committee are made up of representatives of the various “stakeholder” organizations. If you are a member of any of the stake holder organizations, feel free to contact your elected officials to be sure they are on the right wave length.

One could also contact your state reps. If we pressure them some, they may be able to sway the committee?????????????
It may be worth while at this time to let your HR and Senator know that this committee is in existence, then when the committee report is done recontact them with your opinion on the report. Not sure I’d blast the committee just yet, wait till we have something to react to.

At the very least explain to your legislators how stacked the committee is and express your concern the Iowa hunting community is not getting a fair shake.
Yup. What RBB said in two lines took me four. I’m just windier and more FOS.

How or where can we get a list of committee members and how to contact them?
I don’t have a list of the individuals, but here is a list of the stakeholder groups: Iowa Association of County Conservation Boards, Iowa Farm Bureau Federation, Iowa Farmers Union, Iowa Conservation Alliance, Iowa Bow Hunters Association, Whitetails Unlimited(no representative), Iowa Hospitality Association, Iowa Restaurant Association, Iowa Meat Processors Association , Iowa League of Cities , The Department of Transportation , Iowa Woodland Owners Association , Iowa Insurance Institute, Iowa Realtors Association, Iowa Chapter of the Sierra Club, Iowa Environmental Council, Iowa Nursery and Landscape Association, Director of the Iowa DNR (Chairperson of the committee), Secretary of Agriculture, Director of Economic Development, 2 members of the Iowa Senate, 2 members of the Iowa House. Not all of the members of the committee attend. Rep. Reyhons has been to two of the three I have been to and Senator Black has been to one. (I have been to three of four. I’da made all four but there was some confusion if these were “open” meetings)Unfortunately, like I have said before I can’t see the name cards in front of the committee members so I can’t tell who is who or who they are representing. I have not been able to come up with a list of the committee members from my searches on the net, but it maybe out there.

I certainly would not have a problem contacting them and expressing myself….
I think, at this point, let the deliberative process of the committee play itself out then we need to hammer our Senators and Representatives in support or nonsupport of the committee report.

If anyone plans to attend, the seating is somewhat limited, dress warm they keep the thermostat set about 65 and the dress is business casual to casual. This hopefully goes without being said, be respectful and (I’m looking in the mirror) be quiet.

Thanks for the questions. Did I miss anything?

The ‘Bonker
 
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