deeraddict
PMA Member
Bowman, sorry I meant a little humor in my post there, guess that was missed.
Bowman, sorry I meant a little humor in my post there, guess that was missed.
HighJumper
Member
You can have your opinion, but then you have to get real. That camera is on the other land owners property, period. If you could swing a hammer within an inch of the fence post on your land yesterday and not hit anything then you dang we'll better be able to do it today without hitting something your neighbor Hung over the fence. I'd have a well respected thoughtful law enforcement officer take up a conversation with the the offender, use his superior intuitive skills to discern intent, then make a rational decision ranging from doing nothing to smashing the camera with a hammer
GOARMY
New Member
Well it is not against the law to take pics of something in public. There is no legal presumption of privacy if you are walking a field and take a pic. SC already decided this because drug dealers sue police about some invasion of privacy thing.
I think you would have to be stupid or a rookie to hang a camera on the line in that spot.
Take a dummy dead camera and do the same thing in his direction and I bet that camera is gone toot sweet. No words needed.
Now if a stand shows up on the line thats another thing. Nice camera I wonder what the pics look like?
I think you would have to be stupid or a rookie to hang a camera on the line in that spot.
Take a dummy dead camera and do the same thing in his direction and I bet that camera is gone toot sweet. No words needed.
Now if a stand shows up on the line thats another thing. Nice camera I wonder what the pics look like?
deeraddict
PMA Member
Well tried not to get caught up in this to no avail........... Thinking about this more, if this me in this situation, say 2 years ago, I would have been deterred, no actually prolly pissed. Thinking about it now if it was me today, I could care less unless he was trespassing to hunt the ground or shooting across the line. They are just deer, just an animal. Yes we love to hunt them but still just a deer and he is just getting pictures. Two years ago I was starting to get caught up in the horn porn, that is MY deer craze. In the last 18 months I have lost some good friends, helped some friends through the loss of family members and lost my own dad in October after being diagnosed with cancer just 8 weeks before. I would give up hunting for life to have him back, so to me this is just about a deer, and the other guy is just another hunter that loves to see deer too. Very minimal in the grand scheme of things and nothing to get my undies in a bunch about. I think Bowman you are doing the right thing just letting it ride and see what happens. If something about the situation is illegal, different story. Unethical, that is all a matter of opinion.
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Hillwalker
Member
Very well said deeraddict. i feel the same as you do. You never know what the guy that put the camera out has or is going through. Life is to short to let this get under your skin. have fun and don't let hunting become a contest.
JNRBRONC
Well-Known Member
Definitely illegal, IMO. Hung the cam on property they have no right to be on (because it is over the fence line).
Does it blow up into a legal battle? Depends on how those involved care to deal with it.
ShedHunter1
Active Member
I'd put my Buck Decoy infront of it! LOL
Thinkin Rut
PMA Member
I'd put a cam right above his facing his way just to see the look on his face. Really, it would irritate me to no end but I would just keep my mouth shut. I would however keep my eyes and ears pointed in his direction.
SaskGuy
Active Member
I used to hunt some ground close to home. I lost permission a couple years ago because some family members wanted to hunt it. No big deal, he owed me nothing and I have lots of chunks.
I do however chuck cams on the line just like this to watch scraps on a field edge. I have permission next door and I know the landowner doesn't care that I do. I'm just interested in good pics and inventory pics of bucks that may be leaving the property I'm on in hopes to see what is alive. I have no idea if the guts hunting there even know, I doubt it. I've never got a pic of anyone and I don't lock them on.
Anyways, in a nutshell, I could care less if the guys hunting next door did the same thing. To me it's no big deal. Truthfully I don't know what laws are regarding fenceownership here. I guess that is because I don't believe any fence I ever walk along or cross is actually exactly on the line as my neighbors really could care less if they lose a foot or two, it'll work out in the way our over coffee. Quite frankly I can not imagine life where the legal air space near a fence post was even considered. I'm just happy to live where I can do what the person here is doing and not care when our if someone does the same. They r just deer, and fences where I live exist only because of cattle.
That said, three so close is just weird. Guess I'm unethical I'm the eyes of some. I will just say I'm a product of living in a way easier going place.
I do however chuck cams on the line just like this to watch scraps on a field edge. I have permission next door and I know the landowner doesn't care that I do. I'm just interested in good pics and inventory pics of bucks that may be leaving the property I'm on in hopes to see what is alive. I have no idea if the guts hunting there even know, I doubt it. I've never got a pic of anyone and I don't lock them on.
Anyways, in a nutshell, I could care less if the guys hunting next door did the same thing. To me it's no big deal. Truthfully I don't know what laws are regarding fenceownership here. I guess that is because I don't believe any fence I ever walk along or cross is actually exactly on the line as my neighbors really could care less if they lose a foot or two, it'll work out in the way our over coffee. Quite frankly I can not imagine life where the legal air space near a fence post was even considered. I'm just happy to live where I can do what the person here is doing and not care when our if someone does the same. They r just deer, and fences where I live exist only because of cattle.
That said, three so close is just weird. Guess I'm unethical I'm the eyes of some. I will just say I'm a product of living in a way easier going place.
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bowman
Super Moderator
If you are talking about the comment about looking at another woman, no need to appologise. I saw the humor and ran with it, I'm just not as funny.
Saskguy, you are still living in the good old days up there. Sometimes I wish it were the same still here. The difference that I see in your situation is that you had a relationship of some sort with the person that owns the land and you parted on good terms. We have no idea who this guy is.
Highjumper, if I decide to go that route, I'll have to see if I can find an officer that matches the description.
deeraddict, excellent point. After my mother passed I questioned my reasoning for wanting to take the life of another living creature after watching her fight so hard to live. Seems weird now but I was in that mind set then. Hunting sure seemed far less important then.
Everyone else, thanks for adding to the discussion. It was a topic that I had never seen on here before or had even thought about until I saw that camera eye rotate and take my photo. It was something that I would have never considered doing and wondered what your thoughts were.
Enjoy the off season folks!:way:
SaskGuy
Active Member
Bowman, I should clarify that I am not judging you or anyone else that feels differently than I. Everyone is just a product of their culture and I realize ours is diff't. The landowner I spoke of is a guy who I still get straw bales for my dogs in winter from and I still shed hunt the land. However, I personally wouldn't worry about a cam doing such on any property I hunt even if I didn't know who it belonged to, possibly the reason for that is not having a single acre of exclusive land access.
Just the same I don't know if the fence between myself and my neighbor belongs to me or her, I assume her because the old owner had horses. However, I do not know if it is exactly on the line nor do I have one inkling of concern if it is/ It's just a different, more relaxed way of coexistence with one's neighbors. Even though it is off topic a bit this discussion makes me think a little about how I grew up. My dad is a grain farmer and near my home town a fence was a rare thing. I once asked my dad how he knew exactly during seeding how he knew exactly how to make sure he was seeding right up to the property line. He said that he didn't exactly anymore than the neighboring farmer and in the end it really didn't matter as he may gain a foot by a half mile on one field and lose a foot on the next. In the end it was going to work out and if it didn't it was no big deal. That kind of cultural attitude has just carried over in my view of life I guess and deer hunting is one faucet of mine and I'll view it in the same way. No offense intended to anyone who feels differently.
Just the same I don't know if the fence between myself and my neighbor belongs to me or her, I assume her because the old owner had horses. However, I do not know if it is exactly on the line nor do I have one inkling of concern if it is/ It's just a different, more relaxed way of coexistence with one's neighbors. Even though it is off topic a bit this discussion makes me think a little about how I grew up. My dad is a grain farmer and near my home town a fence was a rare thing. I once asked my dad how he knew exactly during seeding how he knew exactly how to make sure he was seeding right up to the property line. He said that he didn't exactly anymore than the neighboring farmer and in the end it really didn't matter as he may gain a foot by a half mile on one field and lose a foot on the next. In the end it was going to work out and if it didn't it was no big deal. That kind of cultural attitude has just carried over in my view of life I guess and deer hunting is one faucet of mine and I'll view it in the same way. No offense intended to anyone who feels differently.
AZHunter
Iowa Boy At Heart
Highjumper, if I decide to go that route, I'll have to see if I can find an officer that matches the description.
With God as my witness, Wayne, that comment right there made me spit my coffee and snort! If you can't find an officer in your area that matches that description, let me know. I might know one!
tagged out
Member
Hell, maybe after seeing the picture of you taking the picture he might get scared and move it! It might just work itself out.
Windwalker
Life Member
Its on the wrong side of the fence. Just some jerk trying to get away with something.
doubledrop32
New Member
Guys are low life's if they hunt on someone's fence line? Wow. Shooting over it, yeah I get but just because they hunt on it? I have stand set up right on neighbors fence lines with no intention of shooting there. Sometimes it is because that is the only trees to get it and sometimes its the best tree to sit in. So I'm a low life for sitting in a tree on that fence line?