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Less Morels than Normal?

nannyslayer

nannyslayer

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I had a very interesting conversation with local mushroom hunter at our coop. He says in the last 2 or 3 years, he is finding less and less shrooms next to crop field edges, where he used to find bag fulls of them. He wanted to know what was going on in the fields to maybe "kill out" the shrooms. This struck quite an interest with me.

If alot of you are familar with row crops, specifically corn, you know that Headline application has doubled since last year, and it will triple this year. Headline is a fungicide that is sprayed on corn after tasseling to prevent stalk and root disease. Now, have you guys been finding less mushrooms next to crop fields in the last few years? Headline is applied my airplane, which in turn gets alot of drift and non-target spraying. I know the shrooms are gone by then, but, if the headline is on the area of shrooms, it will probably prevent them from emerging.

Your thoughts?
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

Monsanto is planning a new seed corn facility up by Independence. The article in the paper lauded job creation, while one response to the article stated that Monsanto was Satan and posted this Micheal Mooresque link:
Evil Monsanto

I do feel that the chemical companies are looking at their profit first, the farmers satisfaction second, then environmental concerns (various ranking as to whether it's water contamination,non-target biota, etc) somewhere down in the ranking. The drift from the fungicide could easily be a problem depending on how long it takes the chemical to break down (if it does).

As to the morels, everybody says look for dead elms. I've found them around dead elms. If morels have a symbiotic association with another plant, is that plant disappearing from the field edge, thus the morels are not showing up? The old chicken/egg paradigm? (though I know the answer to that /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif )
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

To me it all depends if Headline is residual, and what The Rocket said, not that I know what a pairadime, new or old, is.

The 'Bonker
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

Headline is a residule herbicide, but I don't think it would carry over until the next year. But, then again, I don't know much about the life of a mushroom. Are the spores surfaced or are they in the ground in the month of July? If they are surfaced, the headline will prevent them from growing, thats what headline is, a preventative.

In the state of Iowa last year there was around 270,000 acres sprayed with headline. This year that number is going to be tripled. With that much fungicide being applicated, I can see how it will efect morals.
 
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maybe some of you saw it, there was an artical in the Des Moines register iowa life section a few weeks back about a female Biologist from ISU , who has been studying morals for 10 yrs around here. I think i may still have the artical and will pass her name on, but i cant recall her saying anything about Herbicides in her article.makes since though, she said you could pull them out of the ground, & she showed roots & said they would grow back next yr. it depended on how many spores were released,moisture,& humidity. i may still have the article, i will pass her name on if i have it, she would be a good one to call , but anything with a root system should die if exposed to herbicides, unless, the spores can live thru the chemical..? i will research this on the web also.just a thought,doesnt some herbicides need a certain ground temp to work? maybe even though its present, the shrooms start popping before the heat activates the chemical, by then, its to late, .any insight would be great.its always been a mystery to me anyway.
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fishbonker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not that I know what a pairadime is.

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Twenty cents?
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JNRBRONC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fishbonker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not that I know what a pairadime is.

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Twenty cents? </div></div>

Ha,ha /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif I was thinking two "Small" baggies of shrooms. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

I'm not sure about all the technical herbicide talk...

But with over 7 inches of rain already in April, and the 70 degree days we have been having, there are going to be mountains of mushrooms found this Spring. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ibowbigbucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">maybe some of you saw it, there was an artical in the Des Moines register iowa life section a few weeks back about a female Biologist from ISU , who has been studying morals for 10 yrs around here. </div></div>

Here ya go ibowbigbucks.
Kathy Jacobson

A few "interesting" comments about the article. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
 
Re: Less Morals than Normal?

Yes I think there are less morals than normal. It is mostly Bill Clinton's fault.

Can't really say about morels though.

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Re: Less Morals than Normal?

I have found more in the last few years than I ever have. The last few years I found enough for myself, friends, family and had leftovers for the local coop store. Although I don't really look to much around crop sprayed areas except for our farm. But it hasn't seemed to have an impact their.

KRatz
 
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