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20 SENATE FILE
30 <span style="color: #FF0000">BY (PROPOSED COMMITTEE ON
40 NATURAL RESOURCES AND
50 ENVIRONMENT BILL BY
60 CHAIRPERSON BLACK) </span>
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90 Passed Senate, Date Passed House, Date
100 Vote: Ayes Nays Vote: Ayes Nays
110 Approved
120
130 A BILL FOR
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160 An Act relating to nonresident deer hunting licenses and
170 special landowner deer hunting licenses.
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190 BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF IOWA:
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20 Section 1. Section 483A.8, subsection 3, paragraph c, Code
30 Supplement 2007, is amended to read as follows:
40 c. The commission shall annually limit to six thousand the
50 number of nonresidents allowed to have antlered or any sex
60 deer hunting licenses. Of the six thousand nonresident
70 antlered or any sex deer licenses issued, not more than
80 thirty=five percent of the licenses shall be bow season
90 licenses. After the six thousand antlered or any sex
100 nonresident deer licenses have been issued, all additional
110 licenses shall be issued for antlerless deer only. The
120 commission shall annually determine the number of nonresident
130 antlerless deer only deer hunting licenses that will be
140 available for issuance. If applications are received for
150 antlered or any sex deer hunting licenses in excess of the
160 number of such licenses that are available for issuance, the
170 commission shall hold a drawing to determine which applicants
180 will receive licenses. Applicants who received an antlerless
190 deer only deer hunting license or a depredation permit and
200 harvested a deer pursuant to that license or permit in the
210 previous year shall be given preference in the drawing.
220 Sec. 2. Section 483A.24, subsection 2, paragraph c, Code
230 Supplement 2007, is amended to read as follows:
240 c. (1) Upon written application on forms furnished by the
250 department, the department shall issue annually without fee
260 two deer hunting licenses, one antlered or any sex deer
270 hunting license and one antlerless deer only deer hunting
280 license, to the owner of a farm unit or a member of the
290 owner's family, but only a total of two licenses for both, and
300 to the tenant of a farm unit or a member of the tenant's
310 family, but only a total of two licenses for both.
320 (2) The deer hunting licenses issued shall be valid only
330 for use on the farm unit for which the applicant applies
340 pursuant to this lettered paragraph. The owner or the tenant
350 need not reside on the farm unit to qualify for the free deer
360 hunting licenses to hunt on that farm unit. The free deer
370 hunting licenses issued pursuant to this lettered paragraph
380 shall be valid and may be used during any shotgun deer hunting
390 season until a deer has been harvested pursuant to the
400 license. The licenses may be used to harvest deer in two
410 different seasons. The free deer hunting licenses issued
420 pursuant to this lettered paragraph shall be valid and may be
430 used during an additional regular gun season which shall be
440 established beginning on September 1 and ending on September
450 30 of each year.
460 (3) Deer hunting licenses issued pursuant to this lettered
470 paragraph are transferable, but shall not be sold, by the
480 owner or tenant of a farm unit at any time, to a resident or
490 nonresident hunter who has been given permission to hunt on
500 the farm unit by the owner or tenant. A person to whom such a
510 license is transferred shall be otherwise qualified to hunt
520 deer in this state, have a hunting license, pay the wildlife
530 habitat fee, and pay the one dollar fee for the purposes of
540 the deer herd population management program.
550 (4) In addition, a A person who receives a free deer
560 hunting license pursuant to this lettered paragraph shall pay
570 a one dollar fee for each license that shall be used and is
580 appropriated for the purpose of deer herd population
590 management, including assisting with the cost of processing
600 deer donated to the help us stop hunger program administered
610 by the commission.
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<span style="color: #FF0000"> 650 This bill relates to nonresident deer hunting licenses and
660 special landowner deer hunting licenses.
670 Code section 483A.8(3) is amended to require the commission
680 to hold a drawing for nonresident antlered or any sex deer
690 hunting licenses if applications for those licenses exceed
700 availability. Preference is to be given in the drawing to
710 applicants who received an antlerless license or a depredation
720 permit and harvested a deer pursuant to that license or permit
730 in the previous year.
740 Code section 483A.24 is amended to provide that the
750 licenses issued for use on a farm unit may be used during any
760 deer hunting season until a deer has been harvested pursuant
770 to the license. The bill establishes an additional gun season
780 during which such licenses may be used from September 1
790 through September 30 of each year. The bill provides that the
800 licenses are transferable, but shall not be sold, by the owner
810 or tenant of the farm unit to a resident or nonresident hunter
820 who has been given permission to hunt on the farm unit by the
830 owner or tenant. </span> 630
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Let's see if I can summarize this correctly:

First Portion:
1) NR quota kept at 6,000 (2,100 archery tag limit)

2) IF NR any-sex applications exceed 6,000, then DNR will issue any-sex tags (with preference going to NR's who harvested a doe in prior years)

3) DNR will then have discretion to issue additional doe only tags to NR's as they deemed appropriate.

Second Portion:
1) Annually - Two free landowner tags AND two free tenant tags (one any-sex and one doe).

2) The above tags are transferable to residents or non-residents but cannot be sold ??

3) Can be used in any shotgun season AND an additional (new) Sept firearm season (but not bow ??)

Does that look correct?? If so, does this mean that the preference points system will basically be history and be replaced with a prior year earn-a-buck type preference system (since annual applications will most likely exceed quotas) ?? I think I am too slow to understand all of this year's creative proposed legislation (and the motives driving them).
 
I am starting to be thankful that the Illinois DNR is too understaffed and too broke to be trying to rock the boat and push new Bills through, and our Gov Bagosh** is so busy robbing the state blind and sending money into Chicago he doesn't care about anything concerned with natural resources. I truly feel bad for you guys. You have an outstanding resource that it looks like the powers that be are trying their hardest to screw up. Seems like every time you turn around they are trying to push another stupid bill through. Kudos to you guys for staying on top of it!
 
I feel I need to come to the defense of the Iowa DNR here. They are not sponsoring or backing most of this legislation. It is coming out of legislative committees that are being lobbied by the FB, Outfitters and the Insurance Industry. I'm sure the DNR would like to see a little more revenue from selling some additional nonresident tags, but that would be the extent of it. I might be wrong, though.
 
I wasn't attacking the Iowa DNR, especially since I didn't know specifically where the bill was coming from. I was just stating what the situation in IL is and why we (thankfully) have very few changes to our hunting regs. I know a september gun season would not be very well recieved here. Hope it works out for the best for you all.
 
So the limit stays at 6000 and the landowner tags can't be sold. That wouldn't be bad- it is the early gun season that would be the problem.
 
Here is how I read it..

--Keeping NR tags at 6000 any-sex and will still have the drawing if more than 6000 aps.

--Preference in the drawing given to those who harvested does the prior year.

--Then will issue antlerless tags to people who sent in an ap. but didn't draw a tag.

--As far as land owner tags, they can be transfered, not sold, to residents and non-residents.

--Also owner can get one any-sex and one antlerless tag, 2 total AND a tenant can get one any-sex and one antlerless tag or just 2 between the two of them?

--The land owner tags can be used through both shotgun seasons and during a new Sept. gun season.

Feel free to make corrections to the way I read it, I was just trying to filter out all the wording
 
So you're saying I could get landowner tags from the owners of the farms I hunt transferred into my name since none of them hunt, even though I own none of the land? That would be awesome but I have a hard time seeing that in our future. And, uhm, A SEPTEMBER GUN SEASON...I don't put all that time scouting throughout the summer and early fall to have the deer all stirred up and on alert for bowhunting
 
So does this bill mean that NR landowners can also get 2 tags and any tenant can also get 2 tags? Is the special September season only for landowners and is it for antler less deer only or for any sex? We all know that the "no sale" regulation is unenforceable and while the tag might not be sold there will be trespass fees or extra accomodations fees, or just $2000.00 for 3 meals a day. Some one please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me like we will have created a 30 day NR any sex gun deer season for the whole month of September. It appears that if I own land and have any kind of a tennant there are 4 tags, 2 anysex, that I can give away to any NR who only has to buy a regular NR hunting license, and pay me $5,000. for a one month lease of hunting rights. Also if my wife happens to own a different parcel of land with some kind of tennant she could also get 4 tags and "NOT SELL" them the same way to NR hunters. Or am I reading too much or too little into this change?

This whole thing is not only a bad idea but also very bad legislation in relation to Iowa residents and resident hunters. Another thing that I just thought of is what happens to the September youth season? This would change the whole aspect of that hunt and put lots more hunters in the woods in a time that had been set aside for our future hunters and our hunting future.
 
That piece of legislation is sooooo full of loopholes.

I really think we should start treating deer like coyotes.They are no longer a valuable natural resource just a pest. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
Kansas is getting rid of transferable tags for a reason --&gt; only the extremely wealthy non.-res. could hunt every year. There is no way the state will keep Iowa landowners from selling those tags to wealthy hunters! Bad idea guys...
 
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