I guess I don't see how they can really make the long range hunter anymore accurate than lets say a disc extreme. They both have 1:28 inch twist barrels and I believe they are both made by green mountain. So what could be the difference? If you are shooting the same amount of powder, with the same grain bullet, same ignition and barrel twist, I guess I just dont see it. It looks like they changed the looks a little bit, but I would bet it is more a marketing technique than anything. I would think if you have a good scope on your gun and a dang good shooting rest any knight would shoot a 4 inch group at 200 yards with the right load. The problem is, most people don't have a good enough shooting bench like knight does to do this. I have never had a good rest to shoot off of but I know at 200 yards mine is shooting 3 inches low and at a 100 yards it is shooting 1-1.5 inches high.