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Heck, nudging is legal. We do it every year during shotgun season. We make a line and push, I mean "nudge" deer from they're position.
This subject was brought up in an earlier post that suggested the bigger the deer, the less certain game laws applied, if they were admitted in a published article. Nudging...driving
cell phones...coordinating a hunt
If you want the spotlight of a nationally publicized story to promote yourself, your product, or the sale of a rack, don't be offended or suprised if that story is put up to a few harsh remarks or even... being held to Iowa hunting laws.
 
I don't think your supposed to be with a group of shotgun hunters unless you have a valid tag for the season.

It's interesting this topic comes up tonight as I help my son study for hunter safety, here are a couple of quotes from Aldo Leopold:

A peculiar value in wildlife ethics is that the hunter ordinarily has no gallery to applaud or disapprove of his conduct. Whatever his acts, they are dictated by his own conscience, rather than by a mob of onlookers...

and

Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching, even when doing the wrong thing is legal...

It also gives a definition of ethics:

Moral principles or values that distinguish between right and wrong; they are unwritten rules that society expects to be followed...
 
Tracker, I was just being sarcastic. Of course nudging=driving
We do it legally during shotgun season where all parties hunting have a legal tag for that season. No one would believe a person w/o a license, that was helping out with a deer drive in December, was shed hunting. Nor would most people believe that the person in the article was shed hunting and not pushing deer.
 
Cloaca, I knew what you were saying. I was just trying to point out about anyone having to have a shotgun tag to be legal with the hunting group. The same applies to turkey hunting, etc. I don't see any difference in the topic being discussed.....
 
i have read the story and dont find any fault with gene and how he harvested his buck. he is a great whitetail hunter,there are different shades of black and gray. . he did nothing wrong
just my trhoughts
 
Daver...very well said...totally agree with what you said
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I wish that Gene would come out and clarify the circumstances. It very well could be legitimate. Without that there will always be question.

Who was the hunter that killed the huge elk that later turned out to be a an elk from yellowstone? I don't think that this is quite to that level but if I went hunting and used my wife and kids as nudgers, killed a world record, told the story like that, that deer would be in the possession of the DNR.
 
After reading a post about a person who shot a doe and them went and bought a tag I remembered this post. Rip a nobody for illegally tagging a doe... and praise a "legend" for using illegal hunting tactics (POACHING) to bag a giant non typical. Come on! Give me a break. Both persons were doing something they shouldn't. Where are the heavy-weights on this site? Slide over from the PMA and chime in!
 
For starters, the original post on this subject is over a year old and has been beat to death on every forum on the web...

Secondly, plenty of folks have already chimed in on this topic both in support of Wenzel and also to show their distain for the tactics used.

Personally, although I do not condone the ethics they demonstrated, there is NOTHING in the law that I’ve found that says that someone can’t shed hunt on one end of a property while another is archery hunting on the other end.

Did they exploit a grey area within the law to their advantage? YES.
Do I feel they should perform a self-evaluation of their personal hunting ethics? YES!
However, technically speaking, did they break any laws? NO.
 
For starters, you are missing the point. The point was a comparison between peoples reactions to someone shooting a doe, then buying a doe tag and peoples reactions to this Wensel buck being shot using illegal methods.

Secondly, shed hunting is legal. An un-licenced person driving deer to a hunter is NOT legal in Iowa.

You are a publisher? Read the article about the hunt. Mr. Wensel admitted to having an un-licenced, tag-less friend, drive deer to him.
 
mr. "thetruth", THIS is how your first 2 posts to this site are going to be? makes me almost think that the reason you signed up is to stir up trouble, and not to talk hunting and make friends.
 
The Truth,

If that is precisely what Mr. Wenzel admitted to then I see your point. However, I understood that he claimed the hunter who nudged the deer was “shed hunting” in which case this isn’t a game law issue, it’s an individual ethics issue.

From the bigger picture perspective, who cares what people on this forum think about the issue? If you are sure there was a law violated, instead of talking to folks that can't do anything about it you should do the right thing, go to the Warden for that area, and insist that he ticket the applicable person for the self admitted offense that is documented in NAW.

Respectfully, Tom
 
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