New bucks showing up

[SB3]

I have these two that moved in early Oct, never seen them before that and only have night time pics. I'm not even sure the last two pics are the same buck, hard to tell from these poor quality pics. They both look mature, what's your guess on scores?

 

[tflogel]

both in the 140's. Looks to me like the 10 is a year or two older than the 8.