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Who is senitor Black. must have his head up his A--. 430.00 for a non resident deertag.only your outfitters can afford them. Hope it backfires. i have been hunting in iowa eversince it opened for nonresidents. not no more. if the video makers and the magazine writers wouldn,t make it look so easy you wouldn,t be overun with hunters. you just lost one. jim from MO. <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font>
 
It happens....one other ploy to try and lower the deer population...Actually, on the lighter side....that includes a doe tag along with the any sex tag and that is where the price increase is occuring.
 
agreed shredder, wish they would have phrased it differently like just sayin g that they were going to increase the anysex tag amount and throw in a antlerless tag, instead of putting in the terms of a 100$ required doe tag. Kinda stupid! Oh well!
 
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Not much response??Is this for this year or 06?? Where can i find a email address for Mr.. Black. I say again all this is doing is hurting the average hunter.430.00 is nothing for the guys who pay a outfitter to hunt. The guys who are leasing up all your hunting ground so the residents have no place to hunt.I don,t know what can be done but you had better be finding out before it is all gone. jj6/Mo.
 
When I was in Iowa for a whole week before the Deer Classic, I was staying in the same motel where a group of legislators gathered each morning for breakfast.
One morning, after overhearing that they were discussing the deer regulations, I introduced myself and spent a few minutes involved in the discussion. I made a point of telling them that an additional doe tag would probably encourage NR hunters to help with herd management, and also produce some additional revenue. They told me then that they were considering making the tag $100, and asked if I thought that would help. I suggested that might be a little high, but at least it might be a change toward the better. Personally, I would not pay $100 to kill a doe, when I can shoot five in MS during our season.
I had no idea that the idea was to make the tag compulsory!
I can tell you this though. Legislators from Iowa are no different from the ones in Mississippi...
And, they really can mess things up in a hurry!
 
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Pharmer that is just the way i feel about non-residents in Mo!!!. Only trouble there is our Comission is so afraid of loosing their tax money they let neo-residents come and buy all the extra tags they want for somewhere between 5 &amp; 10.00. I think turnabout should be fair play. I don,t care how high your tags get i just think ours should be the same. Have a good day. jj6
 
Clifford i responded to the wrong guy above comment was meant for Pharmer.
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jj6....I agree about the MO tag issue. If Mo changed the way they did things, you may never have to leave the state and hunt cause you would be overrun with mature bucks. As they way it is done now, everybody can kill numerous bucks and there is nothing in the works I have seen to change that for MO. I really don't want to make you mad but wouldn't your efforts be better directed to encourage your homestate to limit tags, change the rifle season dates, or restrict firearms to shotgun only??? I am a nonresident of Iowa and hunt there when I can and would rather see them increase tag prices rather than increasing the quota.

Unlike the state of MO...the deer numbers in IA are about half as many as what your state carries. Iowa grows big bucks mainly due to age...something the herd in MO lacks in most areas. JMO, I would focus your efforts on your home state to change to your advantage and hunt here every 3rd year if the tag prices are too steep.
 
Off topic a little, but Pharmer you often take shots at posters, especially NR posters, by poking and prodding them as a response. I hate to address this but I've noticed it for awhile. You're an educated guy, a pharmacist, how about intelligent interaction.
 
Jdubs- I think you'll find that my posts have a consistent tone and message for NR folks. You are welcome to hunt, I appreciate good people no matter where they live, and I hope that everyone will respect our state. If I ever fired the first shot- I apologise. I do have some trouble restraining myself when I see someone bitching about this or that or a few extra dollars or trying to change our laws so it is easier to draw a tag. Much different to complain over a beer with friends than to complain on the internet and express your opinion to a bunch of people who have heard it all before and are tired of it. I agree that people should focus their efforts in their own state to improve their own hunting, support your state associations, and let your reps know your feelings. Iowa has affordable living and decent employment for people that want to live here. Thanks for the chance to comment again. Pharmer
 
Typical. Fire shots over the bow of others until fired upon, then appear to be reasonable and composed. I'm not buyin'.
 
It would cost me $518.50 if I want to be legal to hunt Elk in Arizona, and from what I have heard it is a lot longer wait to get drawn in Arizona than it is in Iowa, plus a large percentage of their state is Public. Iowa only has 1% of its state's ground being public. Where is everyone supposed to hunt that comes into our state if we took the cap off of any sex tags? Residents have a hard enough time finding somewhere to hunt. Leasing and out of state landowners are making it a little bit hard to find a place to hunt. I myself have found out first hand how hard it is. Why should Iowa be any different than any other state's view twoards NR. Please put the shoe on the other foot.
 
Jdubs, I read and re-read Pharmer's last post, and it seems to me that he laid it out pretty clear. He admitted that he gets riled up on some non-res issues, and sometimes comes across strong. I and Pharmer probably wouldn't agree on various political issues, but I do appreciate that he doesn't waste words when sharing his views. Maybe sometimes that comes across wrong. If you disagree with his words, voice your opinion - as you just did. However, I don't see him just 'appearing' to be reasonable. In comparison to a recent poster on this site who was much less than honest with us - I much prefer this. I do agree that things spoken in person are a lot easier to take and discuss than internet comments. Stand by Kat - it may be time for a group hug soon.
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I have sat here and typed up 20 different replies to this post. (kinda funny how a guy does that trying not to piss anyone off) You ever do that?
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Anyways I guess I will keep my mouth shut, Either way you look at it the subject just sucks.
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jj6....I agree about the MO tag issue. If Mo changed the way they did things, you may never have to leave the state and hunt cause you would be overrun with mature bucks.

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Interesting that you brought that up Shredder. My friend just had the MDC Forestry, Wildlife and Riparian officials out to his farm this past week. They worked out a plan for his farm to begin a long range plan for increasing and holding deer, turkey, quail and other types of wildlife on his land. While talking to the Wildlife expert he mentioned the season dates for the Missouri rifle season. The guy told him he has had more heated arguments with the Conservation Department heads over this topic than he cares to remember. His answer was, it's all politics. They'll won't change the dates because of the pressure from none other than....the Insurance Companies.

I guess the bottom line is, until hunters have a bigger and more financially powerful lobby in government the insurance companies will control the future of our sport.

jj6, A word of advice my fellow Missourian. You're a guest here, so it's best if you keep your elbows of the table when it's feeding time. (FYI~Feeding time = Non Resident issues)

As for Pharmer, what can I tell you. His spirit is that of a true Democrat, but his personality more resembles their mascot.
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I'm extremely disappointed to hear this! I guess the state of Iowa and it's residents don't think that $325 for a tag and the rest of the $$ we spend on gas, food, hotel and buying various hunting equipment while there, is enough money out of my pocket to come and hunt....now it's going to be more. Wow! How generous. $100 more and I get to shoot a doe?! Thanks a lot. I'm sorry but to say this, a few of you that just blatently have this boo-hoo, cry me a river attitude towards NR's sort of gets fired up a bit. But I'll keep my mouth shut because I'm not part of the "good old boy's club" from Iowa. Most just lump NR's into one group that complains about everything.
 
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Who is senitor Black. must have his head up his A--.

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I think there is a fair number of Iowa deer hunters that would agree with this statement right now.
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I look at it this way. The past three years I have been trying to draw a muledeer tag in Colorado. Hopefully I will draw this year. If they would have raised the price and added in a doe tag I would still pay it. Because if you would have seen the mulies that I saw when I am out there elk hunting,it is well worth the money and I would get to shoot a doe also. It just depends if it is worth it to the hunter. I could complain about it but I am still going to pay. Because if I don't I will never be able to put one of those monsters down.
With raising the prices. I am sure they will still sell most if not all of them. I can asure you that they won't lower it next time.
 
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