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It is a good comparison, but you have to look at it this way too. Some of us NRs are on a limited income and certainly can't afford a guided hunt...anywhere. So we turn to do-it-yourself hunts on other state's public land to save a ton of money. It's getting to be where I/we can't afford these either. It's not that I'm complaining because I have the money, but don't feel that I want to pay the amount. It's because states are pricing the average joe out of hunting. Some will say, then stay at home and hunt your state. Well it's no different here in a way. Awesome deer woods are being mowed down for developements everyday, hunting leases being gobbled up by the privilaged(sp?), etc... I can go to 30 doors to ask for permission and get 26 slammed in my face and 4 will want $$. That's the way it is where I hunt. I guess I'm just airing my feelings towards hunting and some the hardships with it, but it's just not about all NRs wanting to come down and chew up every available tag offered. It may sound cheesy, but some of us just want an opportunity to hunt at a reasonable price. And don't take this as I want you to feel sorry for me, that's not why I typed this.

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The hunts I go on in Colorado are Do it yourself hunts. I have never been on a guided hunt before. I am 25 years old and just bought a house about a year ago. I probably have better things to spend my money on but I love to hunt and I manage my vacation and extra funds around hunting. It helps that I am single but the point is you need to figure out what you feel this money should go to and spend it on that. Wether it be hunting or other important things. It just makes you save a little longer than you planned. Nothing you or anyone else can do about it. They will do what they fill needs to be done right or wrong.
 
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Some will say, then stay at home and hunt your state. Well it's no different here in a way. Awesome deer woods are being mowed down for developements everyday, hunting leases being gobbled up by the privilaged(sp?), etc... I can go to 30 doors to ask for permission and get 26 slammed in my face and 4 will want $$. That's the way it is where I hunt.

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Xtec Shooter, What is happening in MN is no different than what is happening here in Iowa. I know because I was a victim of the dreaded lease dilemma last year on the land directly behind my house. It’s a future problem that we are going to have to deal with someplace, somewhere, somehow. It is getting just as hard to come by land here too as well. Let’s face it Iowa has big deer and people will pay to hunt it. I can’t help but to think about if MN. & MO. had the same deer regulations, seasons and firearm use ect. what your deer herd quality would be like. Your state and others has just as much potential to produce quality deer as Iowa does. I don’t see how NR’s can make us residents out to be the victims. Were from Iowa, we have big deer and we’re proud of it. Every time this comes up it’s the same thing NR’s complaining about residents and vice versa it’s a no win situation from an argumentive standpoint.
 
XTEC shooter - Jethro is right, Iowa is no different than any other state. I have been shunned out on more places the last year than I care to share. Oh by the way, Iowa only has 1% of it's ground that is public! We are being effected by growth spurts, urban sprawl, leases, and out of state landowners all over the state here in Iowa!
 
I must be missing something. I went to the DNR website and didn't see the $100 increase. Maybe it's written somewhere else. Is it something that is proposed for 2005? Not denying that it's not true or incorrect. If it's true than it's disappointing.

I looked at the number of NR licenses given out in each zone for NR and Zone 4, for example, had double the applicants in 2004. The analogy is probably that raising the licenses will still fill the quotas.
 
The bill has not even been signed yet to my knowledge! It passed the house and senate last week and is sitting on the goveners desk!
 
Bottom line guys...pay for hunting is here, like it or not. You either pony up to have a place to hunt, or kiss some rich guy's ass. Neither sounds real appealing to me, but certainly the former is better than the latter.

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Jethro,

Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough, so I will say it this way. My beef isn't with some Iowa guys on an internet board...it's with pig poloticians and big buisness hunting that's causing all of these increases in hunting licenses and fees. But hey, maybe I'll just keep my mouth shut and when I'm priced out of hunting....I'll just sit in my garage and watch my grass grow.
 
I find it very hard to believe that a hundred dollars is going to keep any serious hunter from making an out-of-state deer hunting trip no matter where he or she is going. We're not talking about a few thousand dollars here....it's a hundred more than what it was last year, and if you're really that concerned about it, stay home from the bar a couple times throughout the year to cover it. Iowa's deer season rolls around the same time every year, if you really want to be a part of it, start saving for it the year in advance.Nothing is cheap anymore, we should all be happy that it is still affordable.

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I agree and it's easy to justify over the course of a year another $100.00. When I see it on my credit card statement I will need to justify it again to my wife. I will probably pay dearly with another few things on the honey do list and her buying a new purse. That's where things really start to add up for me and it's usually double or triple what I am spending.
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I'm new here and this is my first post,seems like a good place to talk about deer hunting in Iowa.

I have been reading on this site for roughly two weeks before I joined, and from what I can tell, the people from Iowa on this board are extremely anti-Non-Resident hunter and the ones not from Iowa act like they're trying hard to stay on the Iowa people's good side. This business with tag increases has gotten out of control. As a hunter, I would have no problem in shooting a doe to drop the population. However, I don't want to pay an extra hundred dollars for a tag that I don't have to fill. If it was Earn-A-Buck and the tag was free or for next to nothing, I'd have zero problem with this. This Senator Black obviously doesn't care about the people who come to his state and spend money. You say that serious whitetail hunters will fork out the money. I've also viewed the argument that outfitters are ruining Iowa and they're overcommercializing it. This whole tag increase is making Iowa a rich man's pay to play type of hunt. And not for one minute do I buy into the argument that non-residents are buying alot of land. More land is sold to developers year after year, and the hunters in Iowa are worried about 8,000 Non-residents? Compared to the 300,000 odd resident hunters, that's next to nothing. Less than one percent. I highly doubt that land is being bought up by non-residents. Hunting in Iowa for deer is getting to be like hunting elk out west. Iowa has always been backwards on this issue. I am friends with many from Iowa. None that I've talked to have a problem with more non-residents hunting, and none of them care much for tag increases. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the Iowa Bowhunters Association getting people riled up about a non-existing problem. They are running the Iowa DNR into the ground in my opinion on this deer hunting issue.
 
Man this is funny!! Has anyone checked the price of meat in the store. If you shoot a 100 pound doe and only have to give $100 for the tag that is only $1 pound meat that is a great deal. I hunt with 2-3 non-residents a year depending on what tag and season they draw and I have NEVER saw one of those guys come back to camp after seeing a huge Iowa whitetail and say "I can't believe I paid this much for a tag" Heck I'm a resident and if I had to pay $400.00 for a tag I would. It is all what you decide to spend your money on. If you think the price of tags in Iowa are too much don't come hunting in Iowa. And anyone who believes the Iowa Bowhunters Assoc. is not a good organization should subcontract them to look over the other states DNR's offer some suggestions and then we would not have to have this discussion because we all would have big deer and then everyone would be happy.
 
What a way to introduce yourself on the site....welcome. People on this site..residents that is, are not anti-non-resident from what I gather and I have been here for quite awhile. Yes, the $100 is a little high for a doe tag, I'll give you that but I doubt the IBA lobbied for the increase in price but I can bet they did encourage the additional tag to lower the antlerless population...I'll let the IBA guys here elaborate on that. Spend a little more time on the site and I am sure you will find that the "residents" on the site have one main focus...to preserve the quality of deer hunting in Iowa while talking with other folks local and abroad about the passion for big bucks, stories and pictures of the harvests.
 
Mathews Shooter welcome to Iowawhitetail. The IBA does more for Iowa hunters than any other single organization. Outfitters and doe sanctuaries are always going to be a big concern for those of us that want to preserve the great hunting traditions we've enjoyed here. I think NR tags are too high and I hunt with family and friends that are NR hunters. I think some NRs like you get confused when we act to try and preserve what we have. Yes we get defensive as you would defending something you didn't want to give up. Residence first, NRs second seem logical to me and seems to reflect every other states policies. I noticed that you kept your profile to yourself. Why are you really posting here? All NR hunters are welcome here but don’t start with an agenda that’s anti IBA and think somebody isn’t going to jump you about it. As it turned out the last guy to take this approach had is own behind the scenes agenda.

Now to clarify I think NR hunters are great, I also think that the price of an NR tag is ridiculous, the IBA is for all Iowa hunters and we need to do all we can to encourage access to Iowa’s private land for all hunters. This access does not include large tracks of leased lands and outfitters in my opinion.
 
If your worried about a few hundered dollers for meat/trophy, why don't you hunt AK, NR cost for a bull moose is 400 and you can hunt more property than you could cover in a lifetime and have more than enough meat to feed a family for a year. I think IBA has been doing a great job and is not out for the NR... Oh and welcome to the greatest whitetail site on the net!!!
 
Mathews Shooter. Everyone has an opinion on the price, quota, bonus points and everything else concerning the NR tag. Mine is, I think it's a low blow to force a $100 dollar doe tag on NR hunters. I also don't believe the quota should ever be lifted. But these are my opinions.

For now you are partly right about Iowa hunters losing hunting land to NR land owners or NR leaser's. There are NR outfitters and other NR buying up or leasing land strictly for hunting, but it isn't as widespread as our friends in Illinios are experimenting right now. (Go try to find a place to hunt in Pike county.) WE are only trying to protect what we have and at the same time keep a balenced deer herd.

As far as us being anti-NR, I think you hav'nt been here long enough to see your wrong to think that. We have lot's of NR friends on this site and I'm glad thier here. Sure, we disagree with issues like the tag stuff, but we all share the same passion and that's what seperates this site from most of the others. So sit back and drop in more often and you'll find a bunch of good guys and at least one good woman
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Hello all. I've been browsing this site without posting for quite some time.

I think its safe to say that very few individuals on this site supported Sen Black's bill fully. A $100 additional for a doe tag is hard to swallow - and to be frank it I'm not happy about it.

Iowa is a great place to get away from the big money hunting industry. I hope you keep it that way but this Bill doesn't help that cause.

One last thought for you guys, if everyone is worried about outfitters, leases etc from out of state (which is rightfully so after comparing Iowa with its neighbors) why don't you start hosting some of these hunters yourselves? If Iowa only allows 6000 hunters in each year and residents continue to host more and more of non-residents it will really put a damper on outfitters and leasing. Ready to step up to the plate?
 
Thanks for the welcome. No, I do not have anything against the IBA, and I think they are a great organization. I agree, residents should always come first. But I really believe the IBA is responsible for the huge tag fees and anything against Non-residents. I really don't think 6,000 non-residents have bought up and leased out land. A farm I knew about in Clayton county eventually was bought by local people because some non-resident lease guy wouldn't pony up the cash. I think Iowa residents, if they really want to end this alleged practice of non-residents buying up the land, should welcome non-residents to hunt with them, as somebody previously mentioned. Half of our party over in Iowa are residents.

Again, thanks for the warm welcome. And as for my profile, I'll put whatever I like in there. I'd rather remain private right now.
 
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