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Do you think a price increase for a nonresident tag would weed out some hunters or not? I feel sorry for the nonresident land owner that cannot draw a tag. Looks like some guys are going to have 2 preference pts. this year.
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You know something, I dont like out of state hunters...especially after this last year...Had a few guys around my area, that just totally screwed up everything..It was unbleivable...I honestly dont think they had a license either, and just crossing everyones land...as far as I am concerned, raise the price, or make them shoot does....also, give residents a free doe tag...just my 2 cents..not trying to get anyone arguing...
 
well that certainly is interesting! It's amazing how a bad experience taints people's thoughts of ALL others.
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Flugge, I know firsthand how a bad experience with the idiot hunters can affect a person. However, given that logic (and my experiences), then I think resident hunters should not be able to hunt deer, or at least be limited to shooting does. My point is that Iowa has lots and lots of hunters that 'do it their way', at the expense of other good hunters. They may not be a large percentage of the hunters, but they have a high percentage impact. I believe the vast majority of non-resident hunters are a bit more serious about their hunting. If I spent $300 on a tag, plus all the traveling expenses, I would take it pretty serious, and do it right. Plus, if those guys didn't have tags, they aren't out-of-state hunters - they are poachers.
 
there as many bad resident hunters as non resident hunters. just because you live in a state doesnt make you the best sportsman. i agree if i am gonna pay three bones for a tag you can bet your sweet a$$ i am gonna be in that tree sun up to sun down. that is just me though, my friends sometimes call me the owl, owl because i go out before day break and dont come in till they are all almost done with diner. but i get more deer than they all do.
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Do you really think it's fair to label every NR hunter as bad just because you ran into a few that are? You haven't met a fraction of us but you're willing to alienate all of us. Kind of narrow minded thinking isn't it. Camoman may be right, they may have been locals who had no respect for you or anyone else.

I assume by your comment that you have never gone outside your state to hunt or fish, but if you have, then I guess you too were among the hated at one time or another. A vast majority of avid hunters have or will hunt in other states but we get defensive if it's our state they come to. Seems like the self righteous are abundant these days.

Non resident hunters don't make the hunting regulations, we just put them to use. If you don't like them, then I suggest you complain to your local DNR about it.

There are swine hunters just about everywhere you go. I'm not one of them and I take offense to your comment.

Just my 2 cents..not trying to get anyone arguing...
 
You see, I am not trying to raise any arguements...and I know there are a lot of respectable out of state hunters out there, we had 1 guy in our group that was just great. I really didnt try to start any arguments here, but this is my thought. If I paid three bones for a tag, I wouldnt go home empty handed, no matter what. And most non residents I do beleive have more respect than some of the locals, just because they dont wanna pay fines and all of that. And yes, I have hunted out of state. I asked a farmer to hunt his land, and then I proceeded to scoop out his calf pens for him whenever he needed it, and also helped him in the feed over the fall. I dont wanna sound like I am saying all non residents are bad, and maybe it sounds like I already said that, but I know they all arent bad. Its just the select few that to bad there wasnt a way you could thin them. But even if you raise tags, they just wont buy the tags and just poach the deer anyways...Like the guys that were hunting my area, they hunt with so many out of state guys and some locals.its ridiculous..but thats a different story...so I am sorry if I sounded like I blamed all out of state hunters, because I didnt mean to make it sound like that...
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To answer the first post they aren't raising the number of tags allowed the applications for 2004-05 non-resident tags are out. 6000 same as last year.
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I will not travel 1200 miles to shoot a doe. I will go home empty handed and have done just that twice. I hunt a friends farm and passed small bucks just to go home empty handed...happy! but empty handed. A local guy hunting next to us shot two 1 1/2 bucks after passing up 9 does. He said he was not a trophy hunter but a meat hunter. My friend wanted to shoot him.
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i think flugge is way off the mark. i have hunted iowa since 1996. i have been lucky enough to draw tags every other year. i think every state has it's fair share of knuckleheads both res and non-res, but to put all us non-res into the same pot is wrong. like posted before, i pay over $300.00 for a tag, i hunt every second i can. in six trips to iowa i have harvested one buck,150 class tenpoint in 1998, and one doe in 2000. now in all the trips total i have passed over 40, 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 year old bucks. please don't put all non res hunters in the same bucket and kick it.
 
Hunting Ethics, Morels, Skills etc have no state line boundaries.

Some of us that have hunted in Iowa might argue trophy antlers do though
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Money won't weed out the bad apples. It may make it worse. I feel sorry for the great guys, even if they are NRs
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that are on this site that obey the rules and pay the fees and still get lumped together with slob hunters. Tag prices should be linked to demand though as the deer are being treated as a commodity. The welcome mat is out for anyone that wants to move here.
 
I personally don’t think that they should raise nonresident tags fees. I like to hunt elsewhere from time to time so I think we’re charging nonresident plenty, its more than I’d be willing to pay to hunt in Iowa.

As residents if we enjoy deer hunting in Iowa the way it currently is then we have to be willing to step up to the plate and pay for the use of those resources. Otherwise if we start depending on nonresident to pay our fees the DNR will quickly become dependant on those dollars as a primary revenue source. The result will be increased tags and fees.

The DNR needs funding from some place if you’re not willing to put up with more nonresidents than you should expect to do your part. Also, we should insist and demand that the DNR makes wise decisions and properly manages the funds we give them.

Patrick

PS – Due to the nature of the legislative process and the application deadline for nonresidents, any increase in fees/tags would not go into effect till July, after the nonresident draw. So changes this year effect next years nonresident tags/fees.
 
me and the wife have been on the outs, i love her to death but somethings they(women) think are beyond me. if we cant work things out here soon she is already been notified that i am leaving town. iowa would be right up my alley. and i would be a non resident slob hunter anymore
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but who knows just speculation on my part. i hope whatever happens, haapens soon soon i can get busy staying here or get busy movin on.

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My question was simple, Would an increase in the price of nonresident tags weed out some hunters? That was it nothing about the number of tags, the slob nonresident hunters or leaving your wife.
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The reason I asked was because I seen on Iowa DNR that there are close to 4000 guys that didn't draw last year and every zone had more guys put in for a bow tag than the number of tags they gave out. Simple question really!
 
good question. no answer for you though, and dont get so mad at the reply's to some of your post's it only takes abit to get off track and the next thing you i am whinning about my wife
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It didn't the last time they raised them and it wont the next time either. I am one of the idiots that also buys the most expensive doe tag on the planet. Love my home.
 
4 of the 19 entries on this thread are from NRs. Perhaps the moderator could nix this before it gets ugly. I had thought that this type stuff was not to be posted here?!?! This is the crap that ruined the Bowsite!!!!

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