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OneCam

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The 2005 Iowa Legislative sessions have begun and the possibilities of deer hunting regulation changes are a hot bed of controversy.

The insurance companies and local media have painted a picture for the general public that spins a story of gloom and doom concerning our deer herd and deer management practices. 'Too many deer', 'too few hunters', 'not enough non-resident tags' and excusing poaching are just of the few of their outside opinions.

I would like to discuss these topics from a Iowa sportsman's perspective;

· Insurance company's
· Reducing our herd
· Poaching
· Leasing and Land acquisitions
· DNR funding
· My suggestion
· And finally actions you should take


Insurance company's

The insurance companies are in business to make money and their current agenda is to reduce the deer population. We need to respect their agenda while at the same time we need to protect our hunting future. Their current solution to our reducing our deer herd is to increase the non-resident either sex tags while boasting increased DNR revenue, boosting local economy and decreasing poaching all at the same time.

Did you know that there is 2.3 million miles driven for each deer accident. Interestingly enough this number has remained steady over the past few years. Simply put - we are hitting more deer because we are driving more.

Reducing our herd

Are there to many deer? I think we can all agree that the state has seen an increase in our deer herd over the last few years and there are certainly areas that need dramatic reduction in the deer herd.

The key to reducing our deer population is to harvest does. Why ... harvesting 1 doe is essentially harvesting 3 deer (the doe and two fawns for the next year). So in essence harvesting 1 doe is the same as harvesting 3 bucks.

Resident hunters have purchased twice the number of antler-less tags in 2004, 70,000+ vs 34,000, as compared to 2003 yet the media stresses the fact that thousands of antler-less tags have not been sold. Since twice the number of license were sold you can safely assume twice the number of antler less deer have been harvested in one year. We did this all in one year and it's only going to get better. Why aren't we being congratulated?

Poaching

How do non-residents fall into the mix as far as reducing the deer herd? Well for close to $250 for an antler-less tag or should I say "temptation tag". Can we really rely on neighbors to significantly reduce the deer population? I don't think so.

Does allotting antler-less non-resident tags promote the temptation for poaching - recent news paper articles suggests the DNR and the media agree with this theory. So do I.

Non-Resident Increases

More Non Resident tags will increase demands on our privately held hunting lands resulting in more leased land and land acquisition, which negatively impacts the resident hunter.

More importantly in many instances the land managed through these leases or acquisitions creates a safe haven for deer and promotes undesirable deer populations. Therefore the argument can be made that increasing non-resident tags will eventually help to increase the deer herd.

DNR funding

There are countless solutions that could increase our DNR revenue. Until we take a close look at each it's hard to support a "quick fix" by allotting more NR tags.

This year the DNR is going to propose an increase of 2,000 non-resident either sex tags, which will generate an additional $620,000 in license revenue. By increasing the non-resident either sex allocation to 8,000 and allowing 2,500 non-resident antler-less/temptation tags we are in effect permitting 10,500 non-residents the opportunity to harvest bucks in our state.

Current DNR tag revenue from non-resident deer hunters is as follows:

* Bow and gun 6,000 tags @ $309.50 = $1,857,000
* 2,500 antler-less Tags @ $239.50 = $598,750
* Totaling $2,455,750
* Total including additional 2,000 tags = 3,074,750

My suggestion

One idea I have is to do away with the 2,500 non-resident antler-less/temptation tags and approve the increase of 2,000 either sex tags. Additionally increase the sale price of the tags by $80 and throw in an antler-less tag. With this plan we increase DNR funding, remove the threat of temptation poaching, increase the antler-less harvest all while decreasing the total number of non-resident deer hunters.

* Bow and Gun 8,000 tags @ $389.50 = $3,116,000

Again this proposal will have higher revenue, less non-resident hunters, more antler-less deer harvested (by providing both antler-less and either sex tag), less opportunity for poaching - it's win situation for all parties.

Actions you should take

Talk to your legislators, members of the House and Senate Natural Resource Committees. Be polite, respectful and to the point.

Go to this website to find your legislators
Iowa Legislature Website

Most importantly if you haven't already done so join the IBA because they are working every day to protect what you love.
 
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It should be noted that within the last two decades, we have gone from buck only tags, to either sex tags and finally to in the last 4 years starting to sell antlerless tags. Our DNR has done a great job at recognizing the size of the herd and at first limiting harvest of does and lastly promoting the harvest of does (while also increasing their revenue). As OneCam states, we already have doubled the harvest of does in the last year and it is probably 3-4 more times does harvested now compared to 6-10 years ago.

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Another problem with the NR antlerless tag is that it allows the NR to legally party hunt during the shotgun seasons and harvest any deer, not just does. While I may not be against this, it just goes to add that the NR does not fall into the mix as far as reducing the deer herd. We need to quit using the herd size as an excuse to raise the amount of NR tags sold.

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My suggestion

One idea I have is to do away with the 2,500 non-resident antler-less/temptation tags and approve the increase of 2,000 either sex tags. Additionally increase the sale price of the tags by $80 and throw in an antler-less tag. With this plan we increase DNR funding, remove the threat of temptation poaching, increase the antler-less harvest all while decreasing the total number of non-resident deer hunters.

* Bow and Gun 8,000 tags @ $389.50 = $3,116,000

Again this proposal will have higher revenue, less non-resident hunters, more antler-less deer harvested (by providing both antler-less and either sex tag), less opportunity for poaching - it's win situation for all parties.

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Now that is a great idea! So is joining the IBA!
 
I'm not a bowhunter but sent a check to IBA last week. Reading and listening to their representatives here makes me think that they have the best interest of ALL Iowa hunters at heart.
 
Good ideas OneCam. My life membership went into the IBA yesterday. I never thought of NR doe tags as " temptation tags" until that DM REGISTER article. I agree with your pricing idea. What about a resident price increase? We're overdue and it would sure boost our image and influence in the legislature. We would be telling them we are part of the solution and not just standing in the way. No matter how many doe tags are sold or given away, without access to hunting land, harvest will go down. We can't tell our legislators enough, INCREASING NR QUOTAS WILL ULTIMATELY REDUCE HUNTER ACCESS TO THE VERY DEER THAT THEY WANT CONTROLLED. Residents need to also be careful. If you are fortunate enough to own hunting land and only want to shoot big bucks; the farmer next to you that feeds those deer with his crops will only tolerate so much.
 
I think everyone so far has brought up great ideas. Now let's get this wisdom to those to make the laws! Contact your legislators.

They have a lot of issues in front of them each session and can't be experts on everything. Make your arguements polite, logical, concise and compelling. IF YOU DO, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT!

If you are from out of state you can still provide wisdom and insight where it is needed.

Also watch your IBA. They have people who are always working for you and keeping track of what is going on. They are your best organized voice whether you bow hunt or gun hunt. The more members they have the louder their voice.

Old Buck
 
Great ideas Chris
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The problem is, that without money, you need sheer numbers to influence legislators, and that is why we need to band together as a group of resident/non-resident hunters, and make our collective voices heard by our State Reps and DNR officials.
 
avidhunter,

I've been through this on the dove issue. A well thought out statement signed by a number of people would have some impact. On the other hand it is easy to get lots of signatures on a petition and legislators know this.

The greatest impact is from lots of individual putting things in their own words, polite, intelligent and to the point. Ranting and raving, threats, and endless oration have virtually no impact. Even well paid lobbiests have limited impact if they can't demonstrate that they have concerned real people behind them.

They still talk about the time we had 300 people in the Iowa State Capitol all wearing blaze orange caps in support of a dove season.

That is the advise I've been given by those who work with legislators all the time.

Old Buck
 
As a NR (and an IBA member) I can say that Onecam's idea is the best idea I have heard yet. It accomplishes the 4 most important things for me as the NR hunter.
1. Increase chance of drawing a tag!
2. Maintains land access chances for the average income hunter.
3. Maintains quality
4. Provides a doe tag for a reasonable price. A tag that I would be very excited to have, as would the landowner whose property I hunt.

The only thing that it does not address is a potential revenue source for increasing public land aqusition. Although this is not the main topic of this thread. It is certainly an area that would benefit all hunters, NR and residents alike.
 
DOR,

You bring up an interesting point. The DNR must by land at the appraised value. If we increase NR licenses it will drive up land values. Dollars for land acquisition will not go as far. Less public land will be bought. More unintended consequences.
 
I must commend this site's membership. Of the three whitetail sites I frequent, I gain more serious thoughts to ponder from this site's membership than any other.

OneCam - I appreciate the effort you have given to address those issues and agree with the positions presented.

DOR - I also agree that public hunting land growth is imperative due to what I foresee as an almost certain increase in the amount of land concentrated by fewer hunters or hunting groups.
 
I'm not a resident so I won't get into the deer herd debates. However, I am going to fire off about the car insurance BS! Because that is just what it is.., BS!!! You (we) already pay an extra premium included in your auto insurance to cover the cost of deer collisions, not just for if WE hit a deer, but to take care of WHO EVER happens to hit a deer. Thats why its against the law for them to "tack on " any extra charges to your premiums for the chance of a deer collision just because you live in a rural setting that also happens to have a high deer population.., the fee is already being payed by you and me. How much money do these greedy sleeze balls have to make? It came out in the paper a couple years ago that the President of a major Auto Insurance Co. (I forget which one) made $410 million.., that year!!! Think about that for a minute! What kind of money could we save on premiums if he cut his salery in half? can't tell me he couldn't support his family on 205 mill. per year. I've had run in after run in with Insurance co's, none have done what I expected. Even had St Farm lie right to my face, "No sir Mr. Cole, thats not our problem". After my lawyer read my policy, come to find out that St Farm is liable for upto $100 grand! Hows that for first rate service from a co. you can "trust"? If you let these insurance co's dictate ANYTHING about your deer herd, the deer and you will lose badly! Its all about the mighty dollar to them and how much of it they can stuff into their deep greedy pockets! Now you know how I feel about it.
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Reference DNR funding---

There is another way to increase DNR funding that I haven't seen listed--and that is to raise residence license fees. The DNR has not seen an increase in resident hunting license fees in 15 years.

To put this in perspective, name one thing that you have purchased that has not seen a price increase in the last 15 years--except an Iowa residence hunting license.

It seems that we are trying to "balance the budget" on the backs on the nonresident and I personally believe that is wrong.

Currently, nonresident fees are not out of line--but-- I have a problem with the legislatively mandated purchase of a NR small game tag. That should still be their option to purchase if they tag out early and want to hunt while still here in Iowa. With ELSI that is very easy to do.

Yes, I work for the DNR but I still have to purchase a license just like everyone else. And since I like to pursue big game animals other than just whitetail I do a lot of out-of-state hunting and realize that NR tags are much more expensive than any resident tag.

I don't have a problem with a moderate increase in NR either sex tags, but agree that antlerless only tags are a temptation to some nonresidents and that needs to be looked at.

Since my picture shows me in uniform I should state that these views are my personal ones--not the DNR's.

Doug Clayton
 
Antler/all - yes, I have hunted deer in other states as a NR. I have also hunted other states as a NR for other game too. Why do you ask?
 
Right on target dc240nt. And do you think that if the deer population drops, and therefore the risk of hitting a deer also drops, that insurance rates will be lowered too? You can bet your rates will stay the same as before.
 
Very well put Doug. I too agree that it is time for a license increase. I do also think it is time for a fishing license increase, also a lot of other increases involving parks, trails, etc. Doug what is your opinion in regards to the population of our deer herd in Iowa right now?
 
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