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Bucksnbears

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Do any of you fellas have sponsors? Like get a certain kickback$$ for promoting an item on a t.v./ youtube channel?

Gonna go into 2 scenarios that drive me nuts. First one. Bout 10 years ago, a fellow that made custom coyote mouth calls contacted me. This was a time I was doing alot of calling and traveling to western states hunting coyotes. I was doing well shooting well over 100 a year for a few years.
He asked me to promote his calls ( even though I had never blown one) and would give me a small % of his sales. Even a bit of gas/ motel $.
Gotta say I was a bit flattered by his offer but I could not do it. Never tried his call and wasn't gonna lie to become his " Pro Staffer"

Next up is one of my ALL TIME favorites, Mr Bill Winke. I have for many years (and still do) regard him as one of the purest, most likeable, honest,informative man out there. Love the guy!!
One (only) beef I have with him is his so called love of Imperial Whitetail product.
First is Beets n Greens.
Second is Imperial Whitetail clover.

I'd LOVE to sit down with Bill and ask him if he truly believes those 2 plantings are worth the $$ people have spent on them.
I have family that plants many acres of sugarbeets. They have NO business being in any brassica mix!!
Without that magic word " beets" at what, 5% of the seeds in the bag, they could sell that bag of seeds for 1/2 price but by adding a few beet seeds, they sucker some foodplotters into spending WAY to much $ on product that is nothing but a generic brassica blend.
I'd like to ask Bill if he ever shot a deer eating a sugarbeer from that blend.
Bill, if you're reading this, please, no disrespect at all. I Love your stuff and have for years but you DO know darn well there is better products available.

The clover mix, maybe fine the FIRST year but with the annual %% of seeds in that mix, basically turns to crap after that first year.
One more, Waddell product pimping years ago of " Rub Line Slime" remember that one?

Whip it on a tree and watch the big bucks come charging in. Lol.


How much $$ did that product get sucked out of people's wallets to pad his pocket with a product that was a TOTAL gimmick? I'm sure Michael new it but promoted it anyway to make $$.

I couldn't do that!.
Sorry (not sorry)
Thing that has been bothering me lately in the hunting industry.

If your gonna make $$ on a product, 100% believe in it!.
 
no sponsors and I could do it. I think the only time I would do a product is: if I made it and I believed in it + it would have to be very different than the gimmicky silly things out there

The seed blends or anything !!!! Most these dudes will take $ for ANYTHING!! Not all but most. This is how it’s done…. “I want $50k a year”. “Maybe I’ll try for $10k per product” & the race is on for 5 products. Don’t give a rip what products they are- if they pay their $10k…. Done deal. I could gather up the waste from porta-poddies & package them as “natural cover scent” & sponsor guys to pimp them. There’s a lot of guys with principle or standards that won’t take sponsor $ or at least won’t do products we know are a rip off. Seed mixes that make no sense are perfect examples. Or “this mineral (that’s almost all salt) will grow giant bucks!!” Or how bout this one…. I know dudes that have said “crossbows being put in archery season is bad news. Gonna hurt the resource, making hunting worse, crowd archery access & the only winner is: the crossbow companies” & next thing ya know…. Sponsored by those same scum bags that buy legislation & over-run the will of the people so they can sell crossbows.

To be transparent: Sponsors I am considering for Iowawhitetail right now: SHAMWOW!!! But wait…. There’s more!!!…. For you balding men…. There’s a spray paint like product that fills those bald spots with just a few sprays & looks completely natural. BUT WAIT…. There’s more!!!!!! …. Have a screen door you want to make into a Canoe?!???!?!? Flex Seal has got you covered!!! $ a problem?!? Not here because for only 22 installments of just $19.95 plus $49.95 S/H we can get you this pricing here on iowawhitetail! You need to act in the next 24 hours!!
Curtis is already hitting the shows & running some commercials
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If your gonna make $$ on a product, 100% believe in it!.

That's always been confounding to me.

Watching a particular hunting show/host stating this bow manufacturer has THE best bows on the market....then the next year the same hunting show/host saying a different manufacturer has THE best bows on the market.

Doesn't take long after buying that first product or two where the deer/turkery are running in on their video and you're hearing crickets with the same product/technique to figure that out.
 
On a tangent: This product "Made in China"? "Loose" no more? Nothing "Suruiues"? No V's in the alphabet? Lost in translation? Knuckle dragging hunters won't notice the typos as they are too focused on the graphic design of the package?

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I always heard Bill say he liked the Winter Greens mix the best from WI? But I believe a big part of that is rape seed.

IMO, he's the least over the top from the majority of the "celebrity" hunters.

If you want over the top, how about the Drury's spraying nose jammer out of their blinds before a hunt? Or talking about Deercast every 4th word. I really like (and respect) Mark, but the rest of the DSD enterprise makes me want to vomit..
 
I'd rather be offered discounts and then pimp if I agree with it. Usually at costs thanks to generosity of product owners. Win win for both...they don't lose money and I don't overly spend. If I like it I leave a review. If I don't I move on.
This is the only "social media" I have...for various reasons. So I don't qualify for "staff" positions so no making money for me.

There are a few blow hards that pimp quite a few products. Good thing..this is America and no need to purchase. And why I chose not to support their livelihood by not clicking on the videos. Which they rely on to maintain the life style they have chose.
 
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Obnoxious sponsor plugs was a big reason I started making the instructional DVDs I did many years ago... I was tired of just watching outfitted hunts full of ridiculous sponsor plugs...and learning nothing.

Some things have improved, yet there are so many dudes wanting to work in the industry that they'll do about anything to get in...so there's that. But when you legitimately have a great product, obviously it needs to be marketed...I think what it comes down to is finding genuinely GOOD PEOPLE...and I agree, guys like Winke are a good example.

Do keep in mind that when a company sponsors you, not all their products are always good...this is part of being a "pro staffer"...we get to test things out and give feedback. But don't expect negative feedback to always be spouted publicly. Manufacturers are owed a degree of privacy as they work out kinks. Usually the scenario is that you hype what you believe in, and if you don't believe in it, you just don't talk about it. The slippery slope comes when contracts may mandate certain things... I get uncomfortable there.

I literally returned a sponsor's money one time...not because I didn't love his products, but because I simply had too much going on to do the things necessary to earn that money.

Present Day - with Whitetail Addictions, you'll see us promote Asio Gear... I personally guarantee you that everyone on our staff that's using it LOVES it... it is legitimately AWESOME stuff. I also love the Hoyt bow I'm shooting now...yes, Hoyt sponsors us, but I would NOT shoot it if it wasn't an amazing bow that I feel 100% confident in shooting.
 
no sponsors and I could do it. I think the only time I would do a product is: if I made it and I believed in it + it would have to be very different than the gimmicky silly things out there

The seed blends or anything !!!! Most these dudes will take $ for ANYTHING!! Not all but most. This is how it’s done…. “I want $50k a year”. “Maybe I’ll try for $10k per product” & the race is on for 5 products. Don’t give a rip what products they are- if they pay their $10k…. Done deal. I could gather up the waste from porta-poddies & package them as “natural cover scent” & sponsor guys to pimp them. There’s a lot of guys with principle or standards that won’t take sponsor $ or at least won’t do products we know are a rip off. Seed mixes that make no sense are perfect examples. Or “this mineral (that’s almost all salt) will grow giant bucks!!” Or how bout this one…. I know dudes that have said “crossbows being put in archery season is bad news. Gonna hurt the resource, making hunting worse, crowd archery access & the only winner is: the crossbow companies” & next thing ya know…. Sponsored by those same scum bags that buy legislation & over-run the will of the people so they can sell crossbows.

To be transparent: Sponsors I am considering for Iowawhitetail right now: SHAMWOW!!! But wait…. There’s more!!!…. For you balding men…. There’s a spray paint like product that fills those bald spots with just a few sprays & looks completely natural. BUT WAIT…. There’s more!!!!!! …. Have a screen door you want to make into a Canoe?!???!?!? Flex Seal has got you covered!!! $ a problem?!? Not here because for only 22 installments of just $19.95 plus $49.95 S/H we can get you this pricing here on iowawhitetail! You need to act in the next 24 hours!!
Curtis is already hitting the shows & running some commercials
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No Product pimp here. idc how much money. I'd never be a peddler.

I was a Peddler for a company for 7-8 years when I graduated school. When I hunt I want to be left alone, I'm sure the Red Checkered Flannel insulated coat I wear in the late Season wouldn't be approved by any of the companies.

I don't mind watching Bill Winke a little, this blend or that blend gets a little old. I get it he needs to make a few bucks to make it all work but it's not for me.

When I was young I used to buy and try a bunch of crap.

Now less is more, the less I carry with me the happier I am. I cannot fathom having a camera man.
 
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Was a product pimp for awhile- literally took all the fun out of hunting. Gave it up and been happier ever since. It was literally selling your soul- and it was big companies I did it for. Now I see one group I helped changes their products every year- so clearly they don’t believe in anything and that’s sickening but won’t mention who
 
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